Wheel fitment question

[Decker]

Aight. So I am looking into buying some new shoes for the 240. I was checkin out takumiproject.com and some Advans caught my eye. I kinda know a little about offsets, but I'm still a total idiot when it comes down to putting knowledge to practice. They have 2 sets of wheels that are the same size w/ drastically different offsets. Here's how they're listed:

Set 1:
Advan Oni - 4x114.3
Width - (Front) 17x8 -1 (Rear) 17x9 +38

Set 2:
Advan Oni - 4x114.3
Width - (Front) 17x8 +25 (Rear) 17x9 +38

So does the -1 on set 1 mean that the fronts will have a deeper lip than the rear? I guess they'll be sticking out a ton too huh?

Which one's should I go with? Set 2? They'll probably be more flush right?

sorry for the noobness and thanks in advance.

[flip]

This might help:

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

But if anyone can explain please do...

[babowc]

actually on the front of my s13..
18x8 +42 with a 20mm spacer with 215/45/18s sat PERFECTLY flush without a huge drop.
i think 17x8 -1 wont fit too easily under stock fenders if you wanted to run those, but those are good offsets for some thin wheels..

since 18x8 +42, 20mm spacer = +22 sat perfectly flush..
id guess the 17x8 +25 will fit pretty decently, also depending on the size of tires you run anyways..

i'd suggest getting the 17x8 -1 and adjusting camber and possibily rolling and SMIDGE of pulling on the front fenders and you should be able to fit em in there nicely..

i just realized you have a s14... so just keep in midn what i said.. i had a s13

[plv]

that doesnt make sense, the rears are supposed to have less offset. i would email them and ask them about it, maybe its a mistake.

[Joshua]

The first set is a weak fitment.

If these are the one's you are reffering to as the first set it is clear that the 8" pair have a deeper setting, it would look pretty weird:

http://www.takumiproject.com/web%20photo/c0604029.JPG

As for the other ones, that's a much better fitment.

[Decker]

k. thanks for the input. I just found out that these wheels don't clear large calipers, so I may have go with the sport max 006 that I'm so hesitant about getting.

[flip]

Ok so the higher the offset number, the further in the wheels will sit. Spacers act like a negative offset.

^ Is that correct?

[Joshua]

You have to guage the distance of a wheels center, an 8" wheel being 4" on each side (Of course this won't be 100% correct due to differing face widths but we'll just use this concept.) Now...+25mm offset (1"=25.4mm) means that the face of the wheel is roughly 1" away the middle of the rim (positive offset meaning that the face is closer to the outside). -25mm would mean the exact opposite meaning that the face is roughly 1" from the middle of the rim towards the inside.

Hope this helps.

[flip]

Yep! So deep dish wheels generally have a very low or negative offset and most stock wheels have a higher positive offset.

[Joshua]

Maybe this will help a little more for visual learners...

http://i9.tinypic.com/2zxw9id.gif

[Joshua]

Yep! So deep dish wheels generally have a very low or negative offset and most stock wheels have a higher positive offset.

Well, mostly, but you have to take into consideration the width of the wheel.

If a 7" wheel has a -5 offset it's still not going to be something you'd look at and go "wow" yet apply that offset size to a 13.5" wheel and you'd snap your neck at the lip.

[down_shift]

Nice explination KidSaru +1. If you go with a 17x9 on a 14 you should look for an offset of +0 or near that. It'll make a nice fit.

[flip]

Well, mostly, but you have to take into consideration the width of the wheel.

If a 7" wheel has a -5 offset it's still not going to be something you'd look at and go "wow" yet apply that offset size to a 13.5" wheel and you'd snap your neck at the lip.

Yah makes perfect sense.

[babowc]

yep.. kidsaru nailed it.

if you get wheels and they dont fit over your brakes,
just get some bolt on spacers, nothing wrong with that ;)

[down_shift]

spacers work to a point.

[babowc]

usually only takes around 20mm spacers at MOST to clear the zbrakes.
unless you have a wheel that has the hub surface thats completely flat on the face....

[flip]

Good to know