Any interest in an AFFORDABLE Coilover system?

[Mr. Kidd]

Im talking to a few of my manufacturing people about making a good quality Coilover system for S13s and S14s.

Im thinking of a target price range around $600-650.

I know i get alot of people that want a good, decent, affordable coilover setup for their 240sx and it seems the cheapest is Tein Basics which run $750+. (if you know something cheaper let me know)

Even Megans are $850-900.

Just wondering if their is anyone that would be interested in a coilover in that price range. They would have a lowering range of 0-4in, 52mm monotube design
and possibly adjustable dampening.

[SCato]

i would def

[babowc]

I am having a hard time to believe you can come up with a QUALITY and AFFORDABLE coilovers.. especially at that price.

[Mr. Kidd]

I am having a hard time to believe you can come up with a QUALITY and AFFORDABLE coilovers.. especially at that price.

Look at Omnipower, his coilovers are $650 and they are quality units. They are on many leading race cars (NDRA, NHRA, Time Attack).

Skunk2 also has coilovers at that price level on many road racing teams.

Now the problem is that Hondas have 45 different types of coilovers to choose from because their market is huge.

No one has any decent affordable sub $800 coilovers that i have seen for 240s.

[SCato]

thats weird that theres cheap coilovers for hondas, but for drifters theres not a big selection

[Mr. Kidd]

i think there is a market there for them, im just curious if people would buy them

[babowc]

Hm..
go for it.

I'm gonna give it the benefit of doubt..

[mikespeed95]

ugh, springs with sleeves or a shock/spring combo with threaded shocks, spring perches, and threaded mounts?

the tein basics are junky. the shock casing/mount is threaded, and its more or less adjustable ride height than performance stuff. shocks are pretty weak.

if you can do it though more power to you, but the skunk 2 honda stuff is just a oversleeve and a spring more or less IIRC. but after doing research recently with some people and knowing how much decent quality stuff is over there in runs of 100 paid up front (which say your making 10 bux off each set at your price) is 65000 buy in....i dunno.

again more power to you if you can do it but i don't see quality coming at that price,or anything actually adjustable that wont get blown out/break/have the car roll over from lack of spring/shock with tire on it.

[Zippy69]

It's all about market demand. Lets face it, Hondas are today's Chevy. Chevy became popular with hot rodders because they were cheap and plentiful, and they fact that the engine/transmission combinations were endless. Ford made it hard to swap engines and trannies around. But a Chevy V8 would bolt up to any Chevy tranny, no matter 289, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350, or 400ci, they all used the same tranny. Most external engine components would interchange also. So a majority of hot rod builders chose and still choose Chevy.
Hondas are cheap and plentiful, so the import market is catered to them.
If you got the cash to get this started, I'll buy a decent coil over set up for that price.

[v-empire]

.... and nissan will become just like honda rice

[shawn shawn]

Most of the coilovers come out of the same factorys in China anyway...


Re-badged megans? lol

[Mr. Kidd]

How many of you guys REALLY would buy $1000-1500 coilovers?

I mean lets be honest, the majority of the 240 market isnt buying JIC coilovers or KWs. They arent buying Ohlins, they arent buying Tein REs.

Most of the people i talk to buy Megans. Megans serve their purpose and are PLENTY for a street car.

Now guys like Mikespeed and Batlground crew, Tiger Racing, im sure they prefer a coilover with more adjustment which usually means more $$$$$

So my theory is unless you are really into road racing or drifting, you arent into the super high dollar coilover systems.

I mean how many of you would really test out all 32 levels of adjustment on your Megans? who here has been corner balanced? who here sets up their alignment for different courses and tracks?

If the answer to those questions is "hardly ever" then a simple yet quality coilover is for you IMO.

I was merely seeing what others opinions were.

Heres an example of Omnis $650 entry level system, its NON ADJUSTABLE DAMPENING, i think these would be perfect for the "street guys"
http://omnipowerusa.com/uploads/images_products_large/121.jpg

Again, NDRA an NHRA champs use his stuff so it cant be that bad

[Zippy69]

Fine for me, but I personally don't drift, but I do like a lowered ride, and adj. coils are a great way to get the exact height you want.

[babowc]

so it IS basically like adjustable sleeves on struts.

boo.

[Mr. Kidd]

so it IS basically like adjustable sleeves on struts.

boo.

You can raise and lower the COILOVERS, and you can adjust the length of the strut.

Much like Koni Yellows.

Again, im just seeing what people would really WANT and USE.

why get adjustable dampening if you arent going to use it?

[shawn shawn]

It looks like the whole shock lowers. Not just sleeve style.


*damn he beat me to it.



I know us who daily our drift cars need to adjust dampening but im sure there are people on here that won't need that.

[JDori]

I see nothing wrong spending 1000 buck on coilovers


PSM
Stance


good shit.....yeah not the best but they are so good


Im done with uber cheap coilovers.....they always have some let done

[MOOREOFSTEPHEN]

Sounds fine to me. I'll admit... I don't much about coilovers, springs and what not. So what I have to ask;

I want coilovers soon... very soon. I was looking for Megans right now... My car is my DD and I don't need any crazy coilovers for a DD. What is the big difference between these and the megans?

[Wes]

I don't see a real issue with them, my only thing is that if I can get a fully adjustable dampening as well, for not too much more, I'd probably go with that. I'd really just have to ride in a car with them before I could roll with them. But then again, I've heard good things about Omnipower from some Honda boys.

I'd like to see a set installed, and be able to ride on them.
I really loved how Sofo259's Tein Basics rode compared to Viperbite's Megan's, and I know a lot of people that wouldn't buy basics over Megans.

[babowc]

it's also dependant on how its set up.

preload, dampening, height, alignment.

[Cameron.]

hmm so with these omni power ones or w/e can you adjust camber?

[Casey]

I don't see a real issue with them, my only thing is that if I can get a fully adjustable dampening as well, for not too much more, I'd probably go with that. I'd really just have to ride in a car with them before I could roll with them. But then again, I've heard good things about Omnipower from some Honda boys.

I'd like to see a set installed, and be able to ride on them.
I really loved how Sofo259's Tein Basics rode compared to Viperbite's Megan's, and I know a lot of people that wouldn't buy basics over Megans.

lol wes you rode on my car when the coilovers were adjusted like piss.

and you drove it when the clutch was screwey
well it still is...

w/e

unfair comparison.

and youre biased against megans anyways. lol

[Broke240]

hmm so with these omni power ones or w/e can you adjust camber?

If they come with adjustable camber plates then yes.

If they don't you can buy camber plates.

So either way they you should be able to adjust camber.

[S13coupe]

if their good for drift I'm down

[shawn shawn]

lol wes you rode on my car when the coilovers were adjusted like piss.


Adjustment in the megans is key!

[JJ Alfano]

i dont need dampering adjustment to switch from daily to weekend driving. i need a cheap coilover that stiffens the chassis up and gives me the handling i need to perform. ill rock a trial pair for a discount price :goodjob: im totally serious, im going to be in every event i can be in this year, not to mention rainy days are coming soon so lots of practice!! i think i'd be a good candidate for these coilovers

[osiriskidd]

i'd rock em.

[homeslicej2]

I would use them.

[Cameron.]

i would use em. i just need to lower my car, stiffin up susp. just like JJ

[mikespeed95]

thats actually a good idea as long as the tuning is okay and maybe offer a softer/stiff er package like megan street ad track, but with proper shock tuning, and camber plates..

[JJ Alfano]

i think i should get some :goodjob:

[MossMan]

I would buy them over the sportlines and kyb's that I have now.

[I RON DON KEY]

good business venture for you.

to grab the attention of people, you will have to use your knowledge in what you are building and compare to what others are, and physically show hard proof, that your coilovers are worth the bucks.

it's like going to wal-mart headquarters and asking them to sell your product on their shelves. wal-mart has millions of people who make the same things, with the same purpose; wanting to sell it on their shelves, but only a select few get picked.

and plus, i'm sure there are MANY budget drifters in the market, who can't drop 1500$ on a set of coils to use as fun and games. People are paying more than they need. It's like buying a mansion with 50 rooms when your family only has 4 members..

either that, or you are dumb and have money to waste.

I would be up for buying yours, if you could get the same quality and durability as other brands.

[osiriskidd]

good business venture for you.

to grab the attention of people, you will have to use your knowledge in what you are building and compare to what others are, and physically show hard proof, that your coilovers are worth the bucks.

it's like going to wal-mart headquarters and asking them to sell your product on their shelves. wal-mart has millions of people who make the same things, with the same purpose; wanting to sell it on their shelves, but only a select few get picked.

and plus, i'm sure there are MANY budget drifters in the market, who can't drop 1500$ on a set of coils to use as fun and games. People are paying more than they need. It's like buying a mansion with 50 rooms when your family only has 4 members..

either that, or you are dumb and have money to waste.

I would be up for buying yours, if you could get the same quality and durability as other brands.

exactly. people spend way too much on car parts just because of brand names or the "cool" factor.

[Trap Star]

I'll help you sell them in tampa, lol. I'm pretty sure there is a good demand for something like this down here.