SLYDWAYS240 AKA SE-Rious1 BAD SELLER

[Subu]

Bad seller. I've been thinking about this for weeks if I should do this or not. I've drove this car for about 2 weeks after I found out about all the leaks and safety of the car.

I just recently bought his 91 240SX with 220K on it from SLYDWAYS240
He said is was a Super HICAS
No it's just a regular 240 SE
He even told me someone didn't finish the paint job that's why it looks unfinished, no he used spray paint on the hood, roof, doors and pink spray on the trunk.

He told me this:
Car runs fine
No leaks
Newly swapped S14 Transmission
For $2,000

Oh really? Had me fooled because this was my 1st 240, I didn't know much about 240's and he knew I was in need of a car. I asked him if I could take it to a shop close by his place, so this means I was willing to drive out to Winder from Marietta, to have it looked at. He said NO. So that was a stupid move on me to even buy it.

So when I do buy it I found out.

*It has leaks (brakes, suspension, PS leak, exhaust, etc.)
*The "S14" tranny ( I found this out today ) has shredded metal coming out when we drained the oil.
* It's going to be another 2,000 before this car can run SAFE.


I worked 2 years for $2,000 and to find out I get ripped off every cent. Real nice yeah? I thought so too.

He told me he would put on this exhaust and that he did.
http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139576
When I took off my exhaust today...well it wasn't that one I know for sure.
He only gave me the tip. The one on it now has a slash mark in it looks like someone took a knife to it.

If he wants to fight about it then ok. I'll give out me mechanics office phone # and yall can speak with him. You can even ask my brother on the S3 web sight.



Yes I did blow the motor. That's all that I have done. But the leaks and messed up transmission is what he lied about.


I still love my 240 because I worked my ass off for this POS.
IT EVEN HAS SPRAY PAINT ON IT!! Too cheap to just get a real paint job.
SLYDWAYS240 on 240atl
SE-Rious1 on Import Atlanta
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[Subu]

Yeah I know you're not it's ok. When it shifts it's loud. He told me he put a S14 transmission and it ran fine. Since this was my 1st 240 I wasn't sure what a good 240 trans sounded like.

Yeah it's my fault for buying it, but I'd rather it be me than some kid who doesn't have a job and has no money. Where I do have a job and after boot camp I can fix what is messed up.

[kingyogi]

him and his friends flip vehicles for a living, none of them have real jobs. ive bought a few 240's from one of his friends before, although i was satisfied being i paid crackhead prices and had a few trannys laying around anyhow. just gotta watch it man... luckly my first 240 was done right, and im the one who broke all the shit.

[Lone_Wolf]

blew the motor in 2 weeks?
how hard were u driving it?
buy Daves motorset

http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7823

[kingyogi]

bikerj11 off IA is also friends with this guy, hes tried selling some bullshit before as well... then when his mazda truck went up forsale, i tried to pick it up from him and he ignored my calls, left me drunk voicemails... then the next day calls to say he has a FC he wants to sell me for the low. fuck em.

[v-empire]

blew the motor in 2 weeks?
how hard were u driving it?
buy Daves motorset

http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7823


lol...thanks jimbo! you sexy pantiez!


No blew the motor in a month. I was drifting it. I found out all the problems 2 weeks after I got it. I didn't drift it before the 2 weeks because I didn't know if it was a going to fall apart going sideways.


EDIT: I don't have $2300...I have like $67 and when I get my check I should have $197. I've already got another KA DOHC. USDM is helping me with it.

i m so sorry to hear that. live and learn, move on. good you found a solution. usdm240 is fuzzy nice!

u need to work on those funds there, sexy pants! with that money on you, you shouldnt be working on your car but finding something solid as far as income goes.

car doesnt seem bad. all those you have mentioned is gravy... as long as its confy in the car, with ac and heat, and all the electronics are working, you should be good. motor and tranny is easy. brakes are cheap... you ll have a new car soon.


good luck.

[ct9a gsr]

lol... I'm not taking sides here, but come on...

1. You bought the car anyways after the seller refused to let you get it checked out.
2. You expected him to put on an exhaust made for a Honda Accord? LOL
3. You complain about the paint like you weren't aware of its condition when purchasing the car... if you didn't like it, why did you buy it?
4. You've been trying to drift the car and beating the shit out of it and now want to place the blame of the metal shavings in the tranny oil and leaks on the seller? Are you serious?
5. If you're smart enough to constantly beat the shit out of your car while its shutting off on its own and rod knocking louder than a can of marbles being tossed around, who knows what else you neglected to take care of on the car.
6. You try to make fun of the seller by saying he's too cheap to get a real paint job... yet you're the one buying a $2,000 240sx.

Like I said, I'm not trying to take sides here, but I'm not a carebear by any means. I don't even know who the seller was, but your story isn't all innocent and sunshine. Like Dave was saying, if you can only muster up an income of $1,000 per year, you have no business trying to work on a 240sx as a DD... instead, find a reliable DD that you won't break.

BTW, USDM240 is super awesome and super nice, he'll take care of you well.

Caveat Emptor.

[Subu]

lol... I'm not taking sides here, but come on...

1. You bought the car anyways after the seller refused to let you get it checked out.
2. You expected him to put on an exhaust made for a Honda Accord? LOL
3. You complain about the paint like you weren't aware of its condition when purchasing the car... if you didn't like it, why did you buy it?
4. You've been trying to drift the car and beating the shit out of it and now want to place the blame of the metal shavings in the tranny oil and leaks on the seller? Are you serious?
5. If you're smart enough to constantly beat the shit out of your car while its shutting off on its own and rod knocking louder than a can of marbles being tossed around, who knows what else you neglected to take care of on the car.
6. You try to make fun of the seller by saying he's too cheap to get a real paint job... yet you're the one buying a $2,000 240sx.

Like I said, I'm not trying to take sides here, but I'm not a carebear by any means. I don't even know who the seller was, but your story isn't all innocent and sunshine. Like Dave was saying, if you can only muster up an income of $1,000 per year, you have no business trying to work on a 240sx as a DD... instead, find a reliable DD that you won't break.

BTW, USDM240 is super awesome and super nice, he'll take care of you well.

Caveat Emptor.
1. Yeah it was a bad impulse
2. Like I said I didn't know much about 240's so I thought it could work.
3. When I 1st bought that car I said I didn't care about the looks, just as long as it ran well...and it didn't. If anything it was a project car that I didn't know about.
4. Yes I place the blame on him for the tranny. It wasn't from a S14 you can tell because of all the missing senors + I did it once. It shouldn't go to shit like that so fast if he did a fairly new swap. That was the 1st time I abused the car like that and will be the last.
5. The leaks were found way before I drifted it. And yes I am a dumb ass for drifting a car that had bad leaks.

I know you're not trying to take sides. This is the most biggest mistake I have ever made I have learned my lesson as soon as all this happened. Inexperienced and under knowledged are never good. So I've taught myself, if you can't afford the problems then don't do it.

Don't think that I just go around drifting every time with this car when ever it's clear to do so. Yes I do admit to blowing up the engine. It sounded fine before I went and when I came back it started to knock. But even if the engine didn't blow there is still over $1,000 of work that needs to make this car safe and drivable again. The point of me buying this car was so that it was safe and drivable...and it never was. So that's my fault for buying it and his fault for lying and selling the car at such a high price.

What I'm trying to say is that he sold me a car that he said was fine ran good and 2 weeks later I take it to a shop and they tell me this car isn't worth $2,000. He ripped me off and told me lies about the leaks and this "S14" transmission. I do realize that this just isn't a "point your finger" game. If people stop buying from him maybe it could really screw him up. He might be able to sell some good parts, but never a car. That's why I waited so long if I should make this post or not.

[SCato]

sux for ya subu, i got same situation, different seller though. i thought i checked everything, the guy diddnt fill up the fluids so there were no leaks, and the motor i got wasnt the orginal, but i had always heard that 240s were sow, so i thought everything motor wise was fine. little did i know i was buying the slowest KA ever. but subu you live and learn and now after yourve done everything to get it back running you'll know so much more about 240s, and you can honestly call it your car.

just remember that every seller will try and hide something. but now you know what to look for.

heres the thread on your car: http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4676

[Zippy69]

Man sorry to hear you had trouble. But as has been stated, you bought the car. No one forced you to buy it. He may be an ass-hat for not telling you the truth about the car, but you still bought it. Being new to 240's is no excuse. If you don't know anything about cars, then take someone with you who does. You could have asked someone from here to help, I would have been glad to help you check out a car, as I'm sure most everyone else here would have also.
I'm not coming down on you, but take your medicine as we all have had to at one time or another. Like everybody else said, live and learn.
Good luck. I hope the rest of it goes better for you.

[SLYDWAYS240]

ok first off this car was a great one for me and i even miss the car and when u got it from me there wasnt a thang wrong with it besides needing new tenshioners and i have about 10 peps to back me up on that.
Secong you called me about it having a leak it NEVER leaked with me and had no problems at all and your just a DUMB FUK if u think its a super hicas and i never said it was!!!!

Third off dont post shit on here saying i ripped u off u got a running SE coupe in good shape for $2k alot off peps would like that so if u have something to say say it to my face if u got the balls.

oh yeah just to let the 240atlanta peps know how dumb u are this kid calls me talking about he took it to a shop and the shop says its leaking from the intercooler LOLOLOLOLOL
damn never knew it was turbo............

but yeah i dont care what he claims i can say for one that car was awsome with me and id still own it if i didnt find my SE-R at the time and wanted it but was short of cash

and u said u was ok it the car wasnt in the best shape that u just wanted a 240 and when u got back from some camp u was gona drop an
SR well WTF

go to IA ask anyone of the athens crew and they will tell you it was a clean car and had no problems cause i went to the meets all the time till i sold it to you hell u ask anyone that knows me and they know im a great guy and have never screwed anyone over im not that kinda guy

[SLYDWAYS240]

so stop your bitching and scwobling and say something to me Not in a thread
cause your nothing but a fuking lier if u claim all that shit was true and if people on here wana read it well they will even know u have no clue about cars or about life it seems


Lol at you. Trying to sound hard over this. "Ay dog, say that shit to my face son, this kids a dumbfuck"

Act professional when you defend yourself, especially when it comes to business, or at least use some damned correct grammar. Don't use the typical Winder attitude.

And honestly, I feel for the kid, but I think everyone has got burned in a car trade at least once, and really, you have no need to even defend yourself but with a simple "The car was strait for me, I had no real problems with it, it is what it is, and I'm sorry you had bad luck, but, it was sold as-is. Period. End of conversation"

No need for name calling, and talking shit. It just makes you look like a punk.
nah see thats just it he is a KID and i cant stand for peps to slander my name with lies because they got there first 240 and screwed it up trying to be like a movie.

[SLYDWAYS240]

this is making my night


please continue

ha
nah it ends here and funny thing is im not mad just in a hilarious laugh cause this thread but yeah
this pic was taken just before he got it from me it was so clean and nice and no leaks in my driveway son and look at his pics to what he did to my baby :(
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7668/2604010046f9af4c43627aj3.jpg

[Wes]

well i guess punk i am for defending myself im sure not gona suck his balls like alot of others would

Haha, you're still missing the point.
Its no use. I'm glad as hell I left that town when I did.


Here is Wes' final thought.

"Although sometimes, in business, things don't go as plan, but it is the responsibility of not only the buyer (as Subu has, although somewhat childish with the problems, but, its his first car, so thats ok), but also the seller, to maintain a professional attitude with all regards to business. Name calling, pointing fingers, and talking shit does not make you sound better, but makes you sound increasingly dumber, even dumber than the initial comment. Saying that people suck his balls is quite the unprofessional thing to say, not to mention, a very childish thing to say. Although I have offered to help Subu get the things the car needs fixed, and if I remember correctly, I sent him the number of a place to get a good used motor, that is nothing like "sucking balls". It is just a professional courtesy of trying to help someone in need. But he will also admit that it was his own fault as well for not knowing what he was getting himself into, when it came to purchasing the spray-painted beast. So what do we all learn from this? A seller who cant defend himself in a professional manner, or without stooping to childish antics to deal with a possible problem, makes him look less like a viable seller, and more like a hustler who is more concerned with making the fast dollar, rather than building long term business relationships with those that he encounters, whether that be through local forums, or in real life."

Bottom line.
Ethics. Professionalism. Courtesy.

That is all
-Wes

[Subu]

You can control your temper can you? Maturity is lacking, I see.

Ok you call me out? Fine I'll give you the mechanics number and I'll give you my friends number. He lives with me and he never saw me mess with the car before I took it to the shop. You wouldn't even let me take it to the shop and don't tell me "no I let you" because I still have all the old PM's saying "This is my DD and I can't take the time for you to take it to the shop"

"Ok so what if I find a close by you" (me)

"Ok"

I found one and you still said no. Not only that the 240 doesn't even have a S14 tranny.

I know you could care less what I think, because you got your money and SR.

VP Automotive: 770-792-1115

Nice fat numbers so you can see it.


And what I did to your car? I took the black paint off. Also how are you going to go against me when other people have had problems with you. Just accept it that you are a bad seller and move on please.

[SLYDWAYS240]

You can control your temper can you? Maturity is lacking, I see.

Ok you call me out? Fine I'll give you the mechanics number and I'll give you my friends number. He lives with me and he never saw me mess with the car before I took it to the shop. You wouldn't even let me take it to the shop and don't tell me "no I let you" because I still have all the old PM's saying "This is my DD and I can't take the time for you to take it to the shop"

"Ok so what if I find a close by you" (me)

"Ok"

I found one and you still said no. Not only that the 240 doesn't even have a S14 tranny.

I know you could care less what I think, because you got your money and SR.

VP Automotive: 770-792-1115

Nice fat numbers so you can see it.

take the speed sensor from a s13 tranny and get it to fit in there IT WONT WORK so i had to get a s14 sensor and it did so whats that mean ?????
and hey i didnt care if u found one near me it just wasnt worth my time cause i didnt know any that would be lagit and not tell u it needs all this and that i have been down that road.
But i swear the car didnt have the FIRST problem with me and i even thought about trying to look you up to get it back if u hadnt swapped it like u said u wanted to yet.
But shit can hapin when u least exspect it with cars hell ive had some but that car was a good one when i sold it and im sorry if something went wrong but it is a car and u cant blame me thats likeblaming me for the weather

[Subu]

A.


"i didnt care if u found one near me it just wasnt worth my time cause"

You should of just stopped right there. You should take in that it was my familys wishes for me to take the car to a shop. I went against there wishes so that it would be more convenient for you. You made it a hassle for me by NOT doing that.

You said you were afraid that a non-lagit mechanic would do a bad job. To find a leak it isn't that hard. And even if I took it to a non-lagit place they would of told me that it wasn't worth the $2,000 just like VP Automotive. And if they were to tell me that I wouldn't of bought the car and you wouldn't of gotten your car that you were in a rush for.

Bottom line is for that quote...I went below myself for you and then I get screwed.


B.
And how can you say it ran fine when other clients said the stuff you sell is not even running/working.

Just stop trying to be soft about the matter and handle it like a professional. Call my mechanic and ask him about the Red S13.

Yes I did blow the motor. That's about all that I have done. All that other stuff was discovered 2 weeks after I bought it.

[SLYDWAYS240]

A.


"i didnt care if u found one near me it just wasnt worth my time cause"

You should of just stopped right there. You should take in that it was my familys wishes for me to take the car to a shop. I went against there wishes so that it would be more convenient for you. You made it a hassle for me by NOT doing that.

You said you were afraid that a non-lagit mechanic would do a bad job. To find a leak it isn't that hard. And even if I took it to a non-lagit place they would of told me that it wasn't worth the $2,000 just like VP Automotive. And if they were to tell me that I wouldn't of bought the car and you wouldn't of gotten your car that you were in a rush for.

Bottom line is for that quote...I went below myself for you and then I get screwed.


B.
And how can you say it ran fine when other clients of your said the stuff you sell is not even running/working.

Just stop trying to be soft about the matter and handle it like a professional. Call my mechanic and ask him about the Red S13.

Yes I did blow the motor. That's about all that I have done. All that other stuff was discovered 2 weeks after I bought it.
all the stuff was dicovered 2 weeks after u drove it ???
well i took it as the next day but hell deff aything can happin in that time im not a automotive dealer i dont give warrantys on 91 240s with over 200k miles if thats what u want but hey ive had problems with new bought cars myself but they aren cherrys like u must have wanted. but like i said sorry wish it had been a better way for you and dont think i take pride in hearing what happin i feel bad.

[Subu]

Fuck it. I've had enough drama and trying to tell this story. I don't know what to say anymore. I'm just going to go and pretend that I bought the 240 from a junk yard as a project car. Live and learn. When I go to boot camp in May, for the Marines, and I come back I'll just spend money on it since college is free.

END OF STORY


P.S. yeah +1 for Wes

[SLYDWAYS240]

Fuck it. I've had enough drama and trying to tell this story. I don't know what to say anymore. I'm just going to go and pretend that I bought the 240 from a junk yard as a project car. Live and learn. When I go to boot camp in May, for the Marines, and I come back I'll just spend money on it since college is free.

END OF STORY


P.S. yeah +1 for Wes
hope it all goes better for you and GL with the swap and sorry again.....

[flip]

Haha, you're still missing the point.
Its no use. I'm glad as hell I left that town when I did.


Here is Wes' final thought.

"Although sometimes, in business, things don't go as plan, but it is the responsibility of not only the buyer (as Subu has, although somewhat childish with the problems, but, its his first car, so thats ok), but also the seller, to maintain a professional attitude with all regards to business. Name calling, pointing fingers, and talking shit does not make you sound better, but makes you sound increasingly dumber, even dumber than the initial comment. Saying that people suck his balls is quite the unprofessional thing to say, not to mention, a very childish thing to say. Although I have offered to help Subu get the things the car needs fixed, and if I remember correctly, I sent him the number of a place to get a good used motor, that is nothing like "sucking balls". It is just a professional courtesy of trying to help someone in need. But he will also admit that it was his own fault as well for not knowing what he was getting himself into, when it came to purchasing the spray-painted beast. So what do we all learn from this? A seller who cant defend himself in a professional manner, or without stooping to childish antics to deal with a possible problem, makes him look less like a viable seller, and more like a hustler who is more concerned with making the fast dollar, rather than building long term business relationships with those that he encounters, whether that be through local forums, or in real life."

Bottom line.
Ethics. Professionalism. Courtesy.

That is all
-Wes

Couldn't have said it better myself.


yeah not trying to come off an a e-thug just funny how he claims all these issues then blows the car up shesh i hate to hear that happin to the car:(

Be careful how you portray yourself...


take the speed sensor from a s13 tranny and get it to fit in there IT WONT WORK so i had to get a s14 sensor and it did so whats that mean ?????
and hey i didnt care if u found one near me it just wasnt worth my time cause i didnt know any that would be lagit and not tell u it needs all this and that i have been down that road.
But i swear the car didnt have the FIRST problem with me and i even thought about trying to look you up to get it back if u hadnt swapped it like u said u wanted to yet.
But shit can hapin when u least exspect it with cars hell ive had some but that car was a good one when i sold it and im sorry if something went wrong but it is a car and u cant blame me thats likeblaming me for the weather

A. Legit is not spelled lagit.
B. I agree with you on blaming you for things happening after a car is purchased. Things do happen an it can't always be forseen.


A.


"i didnt care if u found one near me it just wasnt worth my time cause"

You should of just stopped right there. You should take in that it was my familys wishes for me to take the car to a shop. I went against there wishes so that it would be more convenient for you. You made it a hassle for me by NOT doing that.

You said you were afraid that a non-lagit mechanic would do a bad job. To find a leak it isn't that hard. And even if I took it to a non-lagit place they would of told me that it wasn't worth the $2,000 just like VP Automotive. And if they were to tell me that I wouldn't of bought the car and you wouldn't of gotten your car that you were in a rush for.

Bottom line is for that quote...I went below myself for you and then I get screwed.


B.
And how can you say it ran fine when other clients said the stuff you sell is not even running/working.

Just stop trying to be soft about the matter and handle it like a professional. Call my mechanic and ask him about the Red S13.

Yes I did blow the motor. That's about all that I have done. All that other stuff was discovered 2 weeks after I bought it.

Its not the sellers job to worry about your familys wishes. He is simply trying to sell something. If he doesn't have time for you to check the car out or take it to a shop, don't buy it.

If the price is too high for what you think you're getting, don't buy it.

I'm not taking sides necessarily but you shouldn't blame people for your negligence. The seller should disclose anything that he knows about but you can always buy a compression tester and get it tested, bring someone with you to check it out etc... If the seller won't let you, thats a BIG tip off not to buy the car.


hope it all goes better for you and GL with the swap and sorry again.....

I'm glad that you came and stated your side of the story. You did make yourself sound pretty uneducated with the way you spoke earlier in the thread and I would listen to Wes's comments. If you are going to be selling things on this market you must convey a professional attitude at all times.

[J Squared]

This is why I buy cars from old ladies and churchy-type folks.