Solid Subframe Bushings. What a *****.

[hellfire]

Ok.. Well this was originally supposed to take a couple hours. I think mine are a pain, or I just need to kill myself.

Anywho. Burnt the old ones out, hammered out the solid sleeves around the rubber, and got 3 in. Still, for the life of me, cannot get out the last sleeve to press the last bushing in.

Maybe tonight. I'm putting it off, my hands are sore.

Fuckin' Decker.

Tyler

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[Dominic49]

lirl

BE A MAN!

[hellfire]

You come down here an do it damnit. LoL..

Tyler

[v-empire]

wt eeef?

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2007/10/17oct9-wtf-is-this.jpg

take a saw-zol and cut throught down the middle.. the you can pry it out.. should be pretty easy to go right thru.

[hellfire]

I've already done that.

Tyler

[Nisxsz]

Damn. looks like a pain in the a**! What type of bushings are those?

[JDori]

yea im not looking forward to doing these over spring...but it must be done.

[Barnacles240]

glad to see ur putting them in...i knew it would be a pain in the a** haha

[Infinite]

i had machine some of mine down, they were too big to press in

who's RUCA's are those?

look nice

[flip]

Cut through the side like Dave said, then use a pick to go all the way down the cut to pull the sides away from the outside of the subframe that will relieve all pressure and it will come right out.

These are a bitch lol. Mine were a pain to get in but with a little dry ice and a 2x4 it wasn't that bad...

[JDori]

yea not to disrespect tyler but those look like some butt lick RUCA's

but if it works, you can't complain

[Infinite]

Cut through the side like Dave said, then use a pick to go all the way down the cut to pull the sides away from the outside of the subframe that will relieve all pressure and it will come right out.

These are a bitch lol. Mine were a pain to get in but with a little dry ice and a 2x4 it wasn't that bad...
i still remember dropping dry ice in your beer
ROFL

and those ruca's look badass
one piece machined 6061 billet
no weak links, like a weld to crack
i'll take solid billet over welded steel anyday

[hellfire]

Damn. looks like a pain in the a**! What type of bushings are those?

http://topspeedauto.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=133&idproduct=1435


i had machine some of mine down, they were too big to press in

who's RUCA's are those?

look nice

Mine fit fine, and i have no problem getting them in. Its getting the stock shit out that is a pain. RUCA's are Footwerks.


Cut through the side like Dave said, then use a pick to go all the way down the cut to pull the sides away from the outside of the subframe that will relieve all pressure and it will come right out.

These are a bitch lol. Mine were a pain to get in but with a little dry ice and a 2x4 it wasn't that bad...

I already did that. You can see the cut in the picture. This one is not budging.


yea not to disrespect tyler but those look like some butt lick RUCA's

but if it works, you can't complain

Read below.


i still remember dropping dry ice in your beer
ROFL

and those ruca's look badass
one piece machined 6061 billet
no weak links, like a weld to crack
i'll take solid billet over welded steel anyday

Yessir..

Tyler

[ThatS13Guy]

how much were they mr tyler?

[Casey]

google it dude...



and holy crap....
i would just eat it away with my rotary cutoff tool :P

it looks like it would fit in there


have you tried lube....

i think lighting them on fire was a bad idea
i would have heated the metal up around it without burning them at all
burning makes it sticky... got a large air compressor?
get a rotary cutoff tool + some wheels for like 40 bucks and 5 bucks for wheels.

dremel stuff is not durable enough for that job so use the cutoff =D

[hellfire]

how much were they mr tyler?

I got them from Barnacles. Not new. New they are like $120 or something.


google it dude...



and holy crap....
i would just eat it away with my rotary cutoff tool :P

it looks like it would fit in there


have you tried lube....

i think lighting them on fire was a bad idea
i would have heated the metal up around it without burning them at all
burning makes it sticky... got a large air compressor?
get a rotary cutoff tool + some wheels for like 40 bucks and 5 bucks for wheels.

dremel stuff is not durable enough for that job so use the cutoff =D

Lighting it on fire is what you have to do to get the rubber out. Now there is no more rubber in there at all, so no, it wasn't a bad idea. And how the hell do I get a cutoff wheel in there. Are you insane?

Tyler

[Decker]

Ok.. Well this was originally supposed to take a couple hours. I think mine are a pain, or I just need to kill myself.

Anywho. Burnt the old ones out, hammered out the solid sleeves around the rubber, and got 3 in. Still, for the life of me, cannot get out the last sleeve to press the last bushing in.

Maybe tonight. I'm putting it off, my hands are sore.

Fuckin' Decker.

Tyler


SHIT! What did I do?

I'm not gonna lie ... I did not have a fun time helping. Although it was fun watching you smash your fingers w/ the hammer ... You were crying like Nancy Carrigan.

[hellfire]

LoL.. Yeah. Just an FYI. Any customer that wants these installed. Its 3k. ;)

Tyler

[Casey]

I got them from Barnacles. Not new. New they are like $120 or something.



Lighting it on fire is what you have to do to get the rubber out. Now there is no more rubber in there at all, so no, it wasn't a bad idea. And how the hell do I get a cutoff wheel in there. Are you insane?

Tyler

hmm...

i would use a cutoff wheel that has been grinded down some already
and chop at it sideways ish like take the guard off and poke it in the hole
chop chop dont break your wrist doing it id grab it with some plyers lol




LoL.. Yeah. Just an FYI. Any customer that wants these installed. Its 3k. ;)

Tyler

werd

im gonna get the press in insert things

easier to install... still a little mush for daily driving

[Decker]

werd

im gonna get the press in insert things

easier to install... still a little mush for daily driving


haha ... no they aren't silly!

[Casey]

haha ... no they aren't silly!

? eh

the ones where you keep the rubber bushing and insert like a spacer or w/e

[Cash]

Here's a really good right up from another forum that I was reading through just the other day. I know a lot of people burn the old bushings, but you don't HAVE to do it that way. It's just personal preference and what tools you have available I guess.

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=165043


Anyway, maybe that thread can give you some ideas on how to get the rest out and get them ready for the sexy new hard-on bushings.

[babowc]

i still remember dropping dry ice in your beer
ROFL

and those ruca's look badass
one piece machined 6061 billet
no weak links, like a weld to crack
i'll take solid billet over welded steel anyday

Sorry,
footwerks are also welded.
aluminum. welded.
Footwerks.
~$140 or so new.

[down_shift]

A friend of mine did my sub frame bushing install. I am so glad he did. Those collars are a bitch. We stripped the frame down, hit them with an air chisel, and then used the press to pop them out.

[hellfire]

I have a press, but I can't really get the subframe up there to press them out. I could take the whole thing apart, but ugh. I'm going to try beating on it a little more.

Tyler

[down_shift]

Yea we took it down to the frame first thing. Saved time in the end. Plus great chance to hit your frame with some paint.

[hellfire]

Yeah, I was planning on painting it if it went smoothly. But its taking too long to care. I'll paint everything when I drop the subframe again for full bushings. Then I'll have to disassemble everything to press all the new bushings in.

Tyler

[Casey]

Why not just do them all right now? Rip it apart. Replace all the arms youre gonna do then bushing everything else. Paint stuff then put it all back to gather in one go?

[MOOREOFSTEPHEN]

it was fun watching you smash your fingers w/ the hammer ... You were crying like Nancy Carrigan.

haha... pussy!:toung: Hellfire= big pus :taunt:

[hellfire]

I read your post. Decided I would give it one more shot and if not, just do what you said. What do you know the bitch came out. Now its just being a pain to get back in becuase the holes are the exact size.

But it sure looks gansta with the suspension disconnected. LoL..

Tyler

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[Decker]

oh god ... that's slammed

[down_shift]

I better see that car at events next season with that ride height.

[hellfire]

Don't worry bitches. Its coming.

Tyler

[The Bean]

he had a blast finishing this up!

[santacruz77]

are they really that much of a pain in the ass to install.?

[I RON DON KEY]

are they really that much of a pain in the ass to install.?

yes i guess it is lol. but with the right tools, it can be done quickly and smoothly

[RaNMaN]

it is a bitch of a job.

i did mine in the parking lot of the apartments i used to live in and they were threatening to tow my car if i didn't take it off the jack stands which only added to the frustration.

also i didn't burn all of mine and the ones that i didn't burn were actually easier to remove. we used a sawzall to cut through the sleeve and then we used a BFH and a punch/pick to pound them out. Flip recommended that i use dry ice (thanks buddy) and then new ones slid in pretty easily with only a little bit of encouragement from a mallet.

i totally agree though, i'd charge out the ass for it too.

[homeslicej2]

ugh... I dread the day I finally replace my subframe bushings.

[hellfire]

Yeah, they are a pain. But they are in, finally.

Car will have a suprise in the next couple days. :)

Tyler

[down_shift]

are they really that much of a pain in the ass to install.?

if in doubt go with collars.

[Casey]

if in doubt go with collars.

yea im really thinkin about collars =D

[Wes]

Tyler, wouldn't it have been just as easy to use a hole-saw, and then just use the pick and hammer tool. I haven't installed my bushings yet, but, my goal is to not have to torch them, just seems like it puts too much stress on the metal, or weakens it even.

[hellfire]

Sure, you could do that. Most everyone just torches them. And I didn't have that size hole saw.

Tyler

[Wes]

Sure, you could do that. Most everyone just torches them. And I didn't have that size hole saw.

Tyler

I doubt I do either. Just gives me an excuse to have wierd sized drill bits in my tool box.

Have you tightened everything back up on the car or drove it yet?

[hellfire]

Yeah, everything is back on the car. I could tell the bushings were shot everytime I jacked up the car by the diff. It would completely raise to the top before the car moved up. I would say a good 2inches of travel. But now its solid as a rock.

I'll let you know how it feels when I drive it.

Tyler

[Wes]

Yeah, everything is back on the car. I could tell the bushings were shot everytime I jacked up the car by the diff. It would completely raise to the top before the car moved up. I would say a good 2inches of travel. But now its solid as a rock.

I'll let you know how it feels when I drive it.

Tyler

Very nice. I need to order up the Energy Diff bushings. But, they are $30 and special order, haha, and according to their site, could take up to a month or so.

I dunno, I'm curious as to what differences I'll notice with the Energy inserts, and the Collars that I'm picking up from James. Or whether they will even work well together.

[JJ Alfano]

how can you tell if your bushings are shot (im guessing they are all are after 15 years lol) but driving the car, what is a good indication? and what exactly do they do?

[Wes]

how can you tell if your bushings are shot (im guessing they are all are after 15 years lol) but driving the car, what is a good indication? and what exactly do they do?

They usually crack or sometimes break all the way through, or just have tons of play in them.

That was my main motivation to put all polyurethane in my hatch, haha, fuck that high-mileage play in the suspension, I want it virgin tight!

[babowc]

dont poly the tension rods.
you'll be good other than that.

[The Bean]

Tyler, your car has to be running in order for you to drive it :P

[hellfire]

No way! I was just going to push it down a hill.

Tyler

[Wes]

No way! I was just going to push it down a hill.

Tyler

The Killswitch Kouki Bobsled Team!

[Koukidrftr]

there is a special service tool we have at nissan that takes those out pretty easy...

[Cash]

Any idea how much Nissan would charge to remove the old bushings if you brought in just the subframe?

You work at the gainesville nissan, right?

[Koukidrftr]

Any idea how much Nissan would charge to remove the old bushings if you brought in just the subframe?

You work at the gainesville nissan, right?

nissan would charge too much. pm me and we can work it out

[v-empire]

yarrrrghhh!!!

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[Cool Cat Racing]

I just take the subframe to our machine shop when I do them. Well worth $60 to get all 4 pressed out. I just put the new aluminum bushings in the freezer for about 30 mins and they go in without much effort. Most machine shops can press them out for you, and its much easier than doing it any other way.

[kingyogi]

welcome to the site ryan :D

[santacruz77]

[QUOTE=godisintheradio;143109]Very nice. I need to order up the Energy Diff bushings. But, they are $30 and special order, haha, and according to their site, could take up to a month or so.

have you got them/used them i was gonna order some but i though about it and it doesnt seem like it would be hard to just make some