making tension arm braces, anyone interested ??

[sofo259]

hopefully this weekend or next ill have my tension arm brace made..
im making mine like this, just more beefy..

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=143957

would anyone be interested in one ?? i just wanna know before i make 5-10 more..

i dunno what ill ask for them.. but it will be everthing, a bolt up kit for the S13's, with hardware..

[Wes]

Shit yeah.

[Banzai]

make one for an s14 and ill get one

[shawn shawn]

If its cheap enough sure. They def aren't worth the 90$ that guy wants.

[Casey]

ill buy an s14 one :)

[sofo259]

ill buy an s14 one :)


well when im ready to make a few.. you can come be my guinea pig since i dont have an s14

the first 3 people interested in them will get them to test... aka cheap

[shawn shawn]

I want a cheap-o one haha

[Casey]

well when im ready to make a few.. you can come be my guinea pig since i dont have an s14

the first 3 people interested in them will get them to test... aka cheap

hehyelll yes

and i have tension rods
so ill definatly notice the difference if there is a big one or not.
and umm...
we're gonna have to do some repair on my front subframe........
aka...
hammer...

it is bent.
lolz

[babowc]

id be interested in one.
depending on price.
and quality.

[sofo259]

sounds fine to me casey...


everyone that is getting one to test knows already.

Anyone after this point, will have to wait until i hear from my guinea pig test-ers..


id be interested in one.
depending on price.
and quality.

sounds good to me,im suer the quality will be good, it will be a bolt in kit but bigger than other kits.. 1/8'' plate, and either 1.0'' or 1.5'', .25'' thick DOM for the center section..

for the center section i may end up building them with square tubing.. havent decided yet.. and
Godisintheradio can vouch for my welding skillz..

after i hear from the testers and start making more of them, the price will tell from the difference made in handling, but alot less than the Zilvia ones..

[badass240]

make one for an s14 and ill get one

x2, ill be the guinea pig

[babowc]

sounds like a plan to me!

[ThatS13Guy]

pm me a price and we will talk :) sounds good

[Beez_S13]

im interested. looks good

[I RON DON KEY]

i am super dooper interested.

[sofo259]

i started making mine today for my s13, when i get more made and a few s14 kits ill let everyone know..

[k0013]

I'm interested in one for the S14 as well. you can either pm me or call me if you stilll need test cars for yur S14 prototypes. Keith

[TheBigT]

id buy one!!

[tc240]

i'm down depending on how cheap we're talking.

[flip]

I'd like one pending price and pictures. I was going to get the Nismo power brace but if these look comparable I'd deff go with yours.

[Nisxsz]

Count me in as long as my wallet agrees with the price. :D

[sofo259]

Count me in as long as my wallet agrees with the price. :D

oh it will..

if all goes well, the testers will have some before january..

[Nisxsz]

NICE!

[tc240]

who all you got testing?

[sofo259]

the Testes

S13- Me, Dorimon,Shuynh, Godisintheradio, and 2 of my friends not on this board
S14-viperbite, and forcefeds14

[I RON DON KEY]

test it on a hicas..!!! mine!

[Casey]

the Testes

S13- Me, Dorimon,Shuynh, Godisintheradio, and 2 of my friends not on this board
S14-viperbite, and forcefeds14

hmm
i wonder if the champagne models are special chassis specific :P

[ThatS13Guy]

price???? i received no pm :(

[Casey]

price???? i received no pm :(

lol they are still in production :P

[babowc]

im down for one as well.
just to re-inform.
:)

[sofo259]

i got you guys.. im still making mine.. so when its finished ill get the rest made.. one at a time guys

[Casey]

ooga booga

[shawn shawn]

Tasty!

[seksehowy]

i'd test for you :D

[s14.5gonewide]

its the same as the nismo power brace.

[Casey]

its the same as the nismo power brace.

yep cept cheaper! :)

[sofo259]

its the same as the nismo power brace.


not really.. its gonna bolt in right between the factory tension arm brackets, plated on both sides,spacers inside the brackets, and grade 8 hardware to top it off

[Nisxsz]

mmm grade 8... whats that mean?

[sofo259]

mmm grade 8... whats that mean?

do you want a weak bolt holding your suspension together ?? me either

grade 8 is one of the strongest and best grades of hardware available

[Nisxsz]

oh i see. I can't wait til your shits in production lol.

[babowc]

Once your stuff gets in production, I'll move it to FS forums..

[sofo259]

Once your stuff gets in production, I'll move it to FS forums..

awesome!!!

[Casey]

werd
and sticky it ! ! !

[santacruz77]

i have the one in the link...

[2isbetterthan4]

do you want a weak bolt holding your suspension together ?? me either

grade 8 is one of the strongest and best grades of hardware available

If you are really worried about it you can get up to grade 12. But then you might as well go to a bigger bolt. Would like to see these when your done. I can also do CAD drawings if needed (for mass production), and/or work on Cosmos structural analysis software if you want too go that far. What kind of steel are you using, 1020, 4130, 4140?



kyle

[sofo259]

If you are really worried about it you can get up to grade 12. But then you might as well go to a bigger bolt. Would like to see these when your done. I can also do CAD drawings if needed (for mass production), and/or work on Cosmos structural analysis software if you want too go that far. What kind of steel are you using, 1020, 4130, 4140?



kyle

sounds good..

ill be using 4130 chromoly, DOM tubing for the center section, and just your plane jane 1/8'' plate on the mounting area..


update.. i have been working alot over the winter break, and havent had time to start on these.. since i have 2 cars w/o motors in them now, it should be alot easier for me to make now.. i just have to find my damn angle finder..

[Neejay]

I'd like one pending price and pictures.
+1

Just keep us updated!

[slammed95240sx]

james i want one.
ill help you make if you need?

[yunk_s14]

i am very interested in this i think that this is a great idea let me know how much these are

[sofo259]

i am very interested in this i think that this is a great idea let me know how much these are

thanks for the inspiration to start working on them more !

its going really slow with work and alot of school, and my Sr20 swap..

[Casey]

lawl. slowpoke

[sofo259]

i know.. i might be getting a new job, so ill be working more hours.. then it will all go rrrreeeeeeeeaaaaaaallllll slow lol

[Casey]

sux sux sux

just admit it, you wont do it :P

[babowc]

I may just try making it myself before I wait until he gets it done, lol.
bust out the welder and cut some pipes! lol

[yunk_s14]

:superman:if he takes to long JGY customs has a really nice one for 45 i would really like to support 240atlanta though you know hahah


:goodjob::superman::superman::superman::superman:: superman::goodjob:

[I RON DON KEY]

give us an update!!

[Nisxsz]

:superman:if he takes to long JGY customs has a really nice one for 45 i would really like to support 240atlanta though you know hahah


:goodjob::superman::superman::superman::superman:: superman::goodjob:


o'rly?

[yunk_s14]

i dont think it is as thick as the one that he is making

[Casey]

yeah the whole frontend of the car needs to be braced... that brace kinda sucks. lol

[sofo259]

well i really want to get my swap done before i start making them, i have all my measurements i need i just gotta find time between working on my 240, my jeep, and putting together a freaking ka for my friends car that has been going on 2 or 3 weeks now..

tomorrow if a few of my friends and i end up working on the Ka build again, ill let them do it and ill start mocking stuff up for my brace, then get steel and make more...

[shawn shawn]

where my brace is?


haha

[S14Addiction]

lmk if you finish and have S14 version, I got new tension rods to install.

[yunk_s14]

word i am waiting for this one

240atlanta ftw

[sofo259]

haha guys just wait..

i ran out of welding wire, and i dont have $50 to spend on a new spool..

they will be done soon guys, i promise!

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[Casey]

haha guys just wait..

i ran out of welding wire, and i dont have $50 to spend on a new spool..

they will be done soon guys, i promise!

you ran out of welding wire?...

[sergey911]

can I get one, how much?

[2tone]

Dude badass!

[yunk_s14]

WE REQUIRE UPDATES hehehe

[sofo259]

hahahahahaha

well guys just give me some time..

and casey is good with numbers so im gonna get him up to help me... i just gotta cut some metal and weld it up..

so after my sr swap is done, it's on for the braces...

[Casey]

hahahahahaha

well guys just give me some time..

and casey is good with numbers so im gonna get him up to help me... i just gotta cut some metal and weld it up..

so after my sr swap is done, it's on for the braces...

im good with numbers??

no... i fail at numbers.

go ask a poker player or something lawl

jk neways.

tape measure + welder = make a perfect one for your car with guess and check

then measure things and make a template

good to go

and you dont need uber strong bolts... too much monies

[yunk_s14]

:superman:WAHHHHOOOO we are going to get braces!!!!:bump::bump:

[ShinHed]

I'd like to see how you can undercut Jonnie Fraz's tension arms in price with equal or better quality.

I have Jonnie's and Nismo's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/JewGal/102_0128-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/JewGal/102_0142.jpg

[babowc]

Uhoh!
Challenger arise.

cmon James, finish it already.

[Casey]

bolt in stuff FTL
im jsut gonna go crazy with a welder one day onmy tension bracket

[babowc]

lol.
watch you burn your car down.

I'll laff at you.

[Infinite]

honestly those tubular braces reall dont do shit.... with those the only thing supported is the inside of the subframe, the outside is still free to twist.

i tried one of those tubular deals bolted to it, jack up the car and it would still sag.
put the one that i had boxed (both across and the underside) and the car now 3 wheels when i jack it up

[Casey]

honestly those tubular braces reall dont do shit.... with those the only thing supported is the inside of the subframe, the outside is still free to twist.

i tried one of those tubular deals bolted to it, jack up the car and it would still sag.
put the one that i had boxed (both across and the underside) and the car now 3 wheels when i jack it up

isnt three wheeling bad?.....

you want it as ridged as possible.
this wont amke your car an indy car but it will help with steering.

like i said.
im just gonna weld my crap and go crazy one day. when i get a welder or something

[Infinite]

go jack up the front end of your car stock... it will sag.

when i jack up one corner of my car i pick up 3 wheels, it doesnt sag at all

[Casey]

go jack up the front end of your car stock... it will sag.

when i jack up one corner of my car i pick up 3 wheels, it doesnt sag at all

ohhh okay

yes. my car is wobbbly lolz

it sags really bad

but thats also part cuz my rear suspention isnt as stiff as it could be.

[babowc]

That has somewhat to do with your suspension setup as well..
I added coilovers on the rear with all adjustable arms.

i lifted the rear pass. wheel and two other corners lifted. pass frnot and drive rear.

the brace isn't there to do much.. it helps laterally and helps the tension arm bracket not flex, as it is flimsy.

stock suspension, no matter how much you brace, you're going to see the car only lift on one corner. mainly because of the pre-set ride height of the strut/springs.

this brace wont help you gain as much ridgidity as will stated.
but explain what you mean by across and underside.

[Casey]

That has somewhat to do with your suspension setup as well..
I added coilovers on the rear with all adjustable arms.

i lifted the rear pass. wheel and two other corners lifted. pass frnot and drive rear.

the brace isn't there to do much.. it helps laterally and helps the tension arm bracket not flex, as it is flimsy.

stock suspension, no matter how much you brace, you're going to see the car only lift on one corner. mainly because of the pre-set ride height of the strut/springs.

this brace wont help you gain as much ridgidity as will stated.
but explain what you mean by across and underside.

i has coilovers
and rucas, tension arms, tie rods, tie rod ends, rear se sway bar.

and i still gotz flex lol

but yeah im working on all the flex stuffz

[babowc]

It probably also depends on your car height.

[Casey]

It probably also depends on your car height.

eh? howso... lol idk w/e anyways. just weld metal to places =D