Custom wheels :p

[1800DialKyle]

ok after beging this company to make me some custom wheels in the off-set and width i want they gave in. I am getting all for for a lil over 550. They are going to be 15x9.5 rear with a +15 off-set and 15x8 front with a +20 off-set. I am still not 100% sure if those are the size I want to go with but that is not the question. The question is which wheels do i pick!!!!!! Help me. this is hard
http://www.bassettwheel.com/images/15x105bsr.jpg
http://www.bassettwheel.com/images/1510_intertia.jpg

All wheels come in either black, polished, and silver.

I found these when I was looking for diamond racing wheels.

[omgwtfbbq]

Both look really nice to me. That's a hell of a deal for custom wheels. They give it more of a track look. Looks like the kind of wheels you find on Nascar Stock Cars.

[Leeelan]

damn i like em both!!! get both!!! the 1st in the front and the 2nd in the rear hahaha awsome!!!! i just solved your problem you can pay me later!

[FlatWoodsMonster]

damn i like em both!!! get both!!! the 1st in the front and the 2nd in the rear hahaha awsome!!!! i just solved your problem you can pay me later!
No no 2nd in the front 1st in the rear. always put the wheel with the less spokes in the front.

[240sxautox]

what company are you getting those from? That's a sick deal... I'll order a set from them once I replace my headgasket.


What tires are available in those widths for that size though?

[suprabrit]

lol, drag wheels ftw!

I like 2nd ones.

[S14Addiction]

2nd set looks nice, great find on your customs

[babowc]

i dont get it..
why go 15 if you're going to go wide?
talk about crappy sidewalls..
you're going to HAVE to run at least a 50 sidewall on a 15x## wheel..
that's gonna suck for response.

[ThatS13Guy]

i like the second one a lil better but there both nice....good job man!!!

[v-empire]

they cost 90 bucks a piece at summit racing.


no beggin necessary.

[hellfire]

Why would you possibly want 15's? Horrible handling.

Tyler

[SixSquared]

What the above people said... watch drag racing cars to get an idea of what they're talking about... big slicks on 15" wheels.. you see the tires ripple because the sidewalls are so big and the wheels turn before the tires move.

I imagine that "ripple" sensation around a curve would be heart stopping... not in the good way.... in the you get brought home in 4 ziploc bags way.

[hellfire]

Well, no. Those tires "ripple" because they are made that way. They are crinkle sidewalls. Designed so that when the car launches, instead of loosing traction, the car squats, then slingshots off the line.

Tyler

[Cash]

those look like jeep wheels. i can see them on a wrangler.

[wantboost]

the 2nd set if you are going to get them. the 1st set looks like a dirt-track setup, but thats just my opinion.

[deerock]

yeah im with wantboost, the second ones look way betterrr.

[slammed95240sx]

i wouldnt but those for my car. esp if they are 15

but 2nd ones look best

[swish_hotshot]

the 2nd ones but i wouldn't get 15 either

[1800DialKyle]

If you are knocking 15's for appearance reasons I can understand but if you are knocking them for performance reason I have the right to call you stupid. Less un-sprung weight, still can run 10 inch wide tires, there are low profile 15 inch tires or you can run streched tires for less side wall flex. There is still a large varity of wheels to pick from. Check yoko parada's and advans, Hoosier, Nittos, Falken tires. Braking is better due to less rotating mass and your car is faster. Also what size wheels do scca club cars use? 15s. I do not see any disadvantage in running 15s for performance. I have beat every sr I come across with the same exact mods as me and I beat them by 2 cars at least. Why? Cant be cause I am on 15s and they are on 17s could it?


i dont get it..
why go 15 if you're going to go wide?
talk about crappy sidewalls..
you're going to HAVE to run at least a 50 sidewall on a 15x## wheel..
that's gonna suck for response.
I think I covered that...


Why would you possibly want 15's? Horrible handling.

Tyler
I think your right!

[hellfire]

Sport Compact Car did a study of just this question on Rhys Millen's Evo a few years back.

It essentially detailed the difference of aspect ratio vs the added weight from larger wheels and tire combos.

The parameters were a 16, 17 and 18 inch Enkei IIRC. And essentially they found that even though the lightest set-up was the 16's it provided slower times around the Streets Of Willow Spriings due to the sidewall flex. The 18 inch wheel/tire combo was marginally faster than the 17 inch combo due to a 35 series tire on the 18 and a 40 on the 17. But they concluded that the added unsprung weight of the 18 inch combo was not enough to warrant the slightly faster times. So they concluded that for the Evo a 17 inch wheel/tire cmbo was best.


Large wheels with high performance tires are more expensive,
but generally give better "handling,"


When tires bounce, a given amount of suspension hardware can put them back
in contact with the road quicker if they have low mass.
So smaller tires should give better handling.


http://www.japantravelinfo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/megawebthe-toyota-race-car.JPG

http://www.pistonheads.com/pics/news/11930/Noble_Race_car-L.jpg

I know I am.

Tyler

[BruceAlmighty]

my opinion has already been stated by everyone else.

good luck with them though.

[babowc]

I dont get it.
if you're going to strech a tire, why go with such a wide wheel in the first place? shure, stretching tires has benefits, but if you're willing to go with that kind of sizing and offset, i hope you already have body modifications.

Adding massive camber to fit and stretching tires defeats the purpose of what you're seemingly trying to achieve. Performance.

[Barnacles240]

its all about personal preference, if i ahd the camber setup that kyle had, i'd rock these wheels to, seeing how he has 15's now and they look pretty sick, adding more offset will only make them look more gangster...granted looks arent exactly what these wheels are made for, dont hate on his style

[wantboost]

what width of tire are you thinking of running?

the only tires i can find that would fit that are d.o.t track radials.

[1800DialKyle]

I know I am.

Tyler
You have no valid point. All you have said is that 15s suck for performance. Can you tell me why in conjunction with my previous post?

And good job. You found a pic of a multi 100 thousand dollar car that has to run bigger wheels so it is not laying on the ground.

[aZn PrIdE aLl RiCeD oUt]

ya i agree...

[1800DialKyle]

I dont get it.
if you're going to strech a tire, why go with such a wide wheel in the first place? shure, stretching tires has benefits, but if you're willing to go with that kind of sizing and offset, i hope you already have body modifications.

Adding massive camber to fit and stretching tires defeats the purpose of what you're seemingly trying to achieve. Performance.
Finally someone with a valid argument. You are right about everything you said. I an not going to run crazy camber to fit these. 20mm front and 50 rears and it will be perfict or I might call for a less wide wheel and roll and pull my fenders and ditch the wide body. Still pondering. Strecting tires, yes I am going to only reason is cause tires are cheaper and less side wall flex. And I never said i was looking for the best performing wheels. I just jumped down peoples head when they said 15s suck for performance.

[1800DialKyle]

ya i agree...
Who is this?????

[1800DialKyle]

what width of tire are you thinking of running?

the only tires i can find that would fit that are d.o.t track radials.
I am not sure yet as to I am unsure about what size i want. I know dunlop has some sp sport 8000 that come in a 245. And I do not know what I want as far as stretching tires goes.

[omgwtfbbq]

I want a Toyota TSO GT-1.:(

[1800DialKyle]

I want a Toyota TSO GT-1.:(
Hell yeah. Drive that bitch on the street. That would be gangster. I think if we sell every 240 on this site I think he might be able to test drive one. Well one of us.

[Wes]

I think I'm the only person who doesn't agree with the whole "Stretched sidewall improves handling" I've ridden in a few that have the tires like that, and most tend to ride like ass/feel like you always have a flat. I don't see how that is a benefit.

+1 for sticking with 15's if thats what you like. I personally liked my coupe better with the stock 15's better than how it was with my 350Z wheels. Could have been cause of the tire size on the 17's, of maybe just the fact that they were heavy as shit compared to all my other wheels, atleast, they felt alot heavier. I keep 16's on the hatch, just cause SE's, Skylines, and Z32's have those, not to mention tire prices are a little nicer as well. Shit, I need to go get my TT wheels, and drive my hatch for that matter.

[1800DialKyle]

I think I'm the only person who doesn't agree with the whole "Stretched sidewall improves handling" I've ridden in a few that have the tires like that, and most tend to ride like ass/feel like you always have a flat. I don't see how that is a benefit.

+1 for sticking with 15's if thats what you like. I personally liked my coupe better with the stock 15's better than how it was with my 350Z wheels. Could have been cause of the tire size on the 17's, of maybe just the fact that they were heavy as shit compared to all my other wheels, atleast, they felt alot heavier. I keep 16's on the hatch, just cause SE's, Skylines, and Z32's have those, not to mention tire prices are a little nicer as well. Shit, I need to go get my TT wheels, and drive my hatch for that matter.
I can not really say if streched tires improve handiling or not cause I have never ran streched tires so it is not my place to say. I would run them for looks/cheaper tires.

[babowc]

stretching to a point is good for handling, excessive stretching is just stupid. Only reason people who drift stretch tires is for clearance and because its easier to break-away/initiate the drift. but, no matter how much you stretch, 50 series sidewall is never going to be stiff as a 35 or 40 series.

with the body mods, i think it would really look a little off.
flares might look better than actual fender-overs, if you're not doing any other body mods. maybe oem s13 aero + those wheels will be o-k.

but.. go for it.. just make sure it clears your brakes and such if you plan on upgrading your brakes.

[hellfire]

You have no valid point. All you have said is that 15s suck for performance. Can you tell me why in conjunction with my previous post?

And good job. You found a pic of a multi 100 thousand dollar car that has to run bigger wheels so it is not laying on the ground.


Huh? I just quoted two reasons why, along with a study done. How is that no valid point?

And why does that car have to run big wheels? It could have 15's, with huge tires.

Tyler

[1800DialKyle]

Huh? I just quoted two reasons why, along with a study done. How is that no valid point?

And why does that car have to run big wheels? It could have 15's, with huge tires.

Tyler
Oh I didnt read your post I thought you qouted me. Ok..

The evo test was a test of the size of tires more then the size of wheels. They make 40 and 45 side walls for 15s. Not easy to find but they make em. Check out Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 and Dunlop SP sports.

And correct me if I am worng but dosnt the second one agree with me?

I hope no one is getting there feelings hurt by all this arguing. I love arguing cause I or someone else will learn some think from it.

[babowc]

buttt
if you get those kinds of tires..it'll probably be expensive~

lol
get it.. i think it'll look ok on stock body.

[Wes]

Oh I didnt read your post I thought you qouted me. Ok..

The evo test was a test of the size of tires more then the size of wheels. They make 40 and 45 side walls for 15s. Not easy to find but they make em. Check out Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 and Dunlop SP sports.

And correct me if I am worng but dosnt the second one agree with me?

I hope no one is getting there feelings hurt by all this arguing. I love arguing cause I or someone else will learn some think from it.

Don't run those Pilots, I had them on my NX a while back. Not impressive at all, to me atleast.

[Casey]

ok... dude

dont get +15 offset on 9.5's
youve got an s13...
its gonna poke out like mad.

[zcrew]

http://www.4x4xplor.com/images/rockcrawlers/cj-rockcrawler03.jpg

[1800DialKyle]

I think I am going to get those tires^^^^ What do yall think about that???? :)

[hellfire]

Oh I didnt read your post I thought you qouted me. Ok..

The evo test was a test of the size of tires more then the size of wheels. They make 40 and 45 side walls for 15s. Not easy to find but they make em. Check out Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 and Dunlop SP sports.

And correct me if I am worng but dosnt the second one agree with me?

I hope no one is getting there feelings hurt by all this arguing. I love arguing cause I or someone else will learn some think from it.


Don't worry, I don't get mad over the interweb. I love arguing too. Should have been a lawyer.

Sure, thats what the whole point is, the smaller the wheel, the larger the sidewall must be in order to maintain the same overall size. If you get 15's with a 35 sidewall, your car will look like a mexican truck thing running go cart wheels. So yes, the test included the tire size, but that is crutial.

And no, it doesn't agree with you. It says the SMALLER the TIRE the better the handling.

Tyler

[YoshiMan]

2nd ones man

[Casey]

Oh I didnt read your post I thought you qouted me. Ok..

The evo test was a test of the size of tires more then the size of wheels. They make 40 and 45 side walls for 15s. Not easy to find but they make em. Check out Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 and Dunlop SP sports.

And correct me if I am worng but dosnt the second one agree with me?

I hope no one is getting there feelings hurt by all this arguing. I love arguing cause I or someone else will learn something from it.

waiiit a second
youre gonna get 40 sidewall tires on 15 inch wheels on what car?
your 240 or a geo metro...

you need to get your car aligned.
from a handling perspective. 17's are the best compromise in weight and handling. its been proven hundreds of times from reputable companies. so if you dont have a reason to go 15's from a looks standpoint then go with a 16 or 17. they are easier to find in a 10 inch wide.
and where on earth did you hear that a 15 is going to handle better than a 17?
you know why they even sell 17 inch rims in the first place? because somewhere in history, someone figured out low profile tires handle better than thick profile tires. so they decided to put some larger rims from a larger vehicle on thier smaller vehicle and put smaller tires on that tire. well now companies make those rims like candy because they are better handling. of course you get manufatures who make rims out of lead or something so they weigh 49 pounds a rim... but a lightweight 17 is going to offer the best handling comprimise of rotating mass and tire responce.

i drive on 15's...
i feel the tire flex more than my coilovers when i hit little bumps.
its not good for handling. it really restricts how well my car drives because of it. but i cant afford the 5 lug conversion and wheels

honestly the debate over 17 inch vs 15 inch is just as dumb as the debate over 9.5 inch wide vs 6.5 inch wide wheels...

17 + 9.5 all around = great handling. but its gonna weigh more.
its a good comprimise.
and btw a heavier wheel is going to take more power to break it loose so on a high horsepower car. its a good idea to go wider and heavier in the rear.
atleast for drag that is.

[badass240]

^ good point, thats y i got rid of the 15's and got 17's. plus it looks 10x better

[hellfire]

:( I guess arguing is over now?

Tyler

[BlackMage]

Depends on your wants for the car. Drag racing I'd personally go as small as I possibly could, some Hoosiers with huge ass sidewalls would be pimp on 15s. For a street car I'd say 16s or 17s depending on your preference. I personally would love to have some Starion wheels, 16x8s up front and the 16x9s in the rear because it looks pimp to me and I personally prefer the way 16s look on these cars over 17s. But because of the brake setup I want I need to go for 17s, right now I have some '00 - '04 Mustang Bullitt wheels on my car 17x8, the handle good and fight just right under the rear. As far as weight goes with the 235/45R17 tires on them they weight slightly more than the 195/65R15s I had on the stock steelies. When I get my next set of tires I plan on some Azines in 235/40R17 which should prove to handle amazingly once I get rid of my stock suspension.

[wantboost]

UPDATE?????

[Rbsil80]

nice

[Nismo_RPS13]

I would get something cheap and nice looking for street driving and just get two rears for when you go to the track

[P.Haire]

you know this guy is tarded when he said he had to beg basset racing wheels to make custom size and offsets because thats what the company specializes in. secondly the wheels are gonna weigh anywhere between 17-20 pounds depending on what size you get which is how much my 17s weigh. also you can get 16s from diamond racings wheels in whatever width an offset you want for about what you would pay for 15s from basset.

[hellfire]

That is by far the worst website address I have ever seen. LoL..

Tyler

[P.Haire]

your shop is named after
A: a bad emo band
B: a switch that turns off things

so when you change the name of your shop to something that doesn't mean it turns off performance you can come talk to me. :)

ps. it's a joke, because drifting is serious business, so are teh interwebs.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

you know this guy is tarded when he said he had to beg basset racing wheels to make custom size and offsets because thats what the company specializes in. secondly the wheels are gonna weigh anywhere between 17-20 pounds depending on what size you get which is how much my 17s weigh. also you can get 16s from diamond racings wheels in whatever width an offset you want for about what you would pay for 15s from basset.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb284/theundersteerking/LEA002.jpg

[1800DialKyle]

you know this guy is tarded when he said he had to beg basset racing wheels to make custom size and offsets because thats what the company specializes in. secondly the wheels are gonna weigh anywhere between 17-20 pounds depending on what size you get which is how much my 17s weigh. also you can get 16s from diamond racings wheels in whatever width an offset you want for about what you would pay for 15s from basset.
LOL I will get to you in a sec.

Whoa totally forgot about this thread. Ok, I do not think any one is getting what I am tring to say. You say 17s will handle better on the sole fact of tire sizes. With that being said wouldnt a 15 handle just as good if not better with the same tire size? Yes it would look retarded but that is not what this argument is about.

Now back this this P. Haire character. You obviousely have insufficient knowledge about the subject. Yes they make custom wheel SIZES!!! Not custom bolt patterns. Yes I know about diamond racing wheels. I own them. And third you need to exercise a proper vocabulary. Calling people tards and other improper justers will not be tolerated. Especially to one of the founders of this site. I would hate to see a newly outspoken member become a newly banned member. ;) Let that be a friendly warning.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

your shop is named after
A: a bad emo band
B: a switch that turns off things

so when you change the name of your shop to something that doesn't mean it turns off performance you can come talk to me. :)

ps. it's a joke, because drifting is serious business, so are teh interwebs.

Coming from the man out of Nashville the place where all the actions at lol.

[Gtr32]

they both look good to me.

[hellfire]

your shop is named after
A: a bad emo band
B: a switch that turns off things

so when you change the name of your shop to something that doesn't mean it turns off performance you can come talk to me. :)

ps. it's a joke, because drifting is serious business, so are teh interwebs.

Haha.. Clever. I was just saying, nobody is every going to remember how many Z's are in that bitch. And you got denied to Ziptied becuase of it. LoL...

Tyler

[doctorsars]

get both