are two cars better then 1?

[NapalmS13]

What would you do? have a beater drifter and a project s13 or just focus on getting one done at a time? How would you spend the money?

[v-empire]

What would you do? have a beater drifter and a project s13 or just focus on getting one done at a time? How would you spend the money?

for me,

never two unless i have budget for it.

it gets expensive.

i m by no means rich or stable, my stupid silly s13 has costs me about 20k already.
i dont see 20k on my car at all, but when i started adding up stupid little things i had to get for it, like balls joints, biolts nuts, lines, fittings, material, etc, it adds up like crazy...... i m depressed now.

[tc240]

i say 2. have your daily... and your project.

Separate the one that breaks from the one you drive normal. That way... if your fun car breaks on track... you've got a way to get to work without rushing, and dropping money, for new parts.

just my .2 cents.

[homeslicej2]

Like v-empire said, depends on your budget. Sure it's fun to have a DD and a project/track/weekend car, but if you can't afford it, don't do it. I DD an '02 Stratus bc the 240 sits most of time waiting on me to fix things and I've spent more than 10k on mine counting buying the car and it doesn't even show so I feel your pain Dave :(

[flip]

Yes. Budget. But if you can afford it do 2. One decent daily and one that you expect to break often or tear appart often...

[Andy C]

I would have a daily driver and a project car if it wasn't for insurance. so i just have a fun car that i daily drive.

[SR20DETg20girl]

personally i'd rather have a beater/daily that i don't care much about other than if it runs or not and a project car.

if you're building a project/fun car, you have to expect it to break (that's just a given. it's how cars are) *unless* you spend a ton of money to "do it right". and if you've got that much money to spend, a few hundred to get a beater really won't make much of a difference...

i've been working on my G for 4 years without having a beater to take her place when she breaks and let me tell you, it SUCKS waking up in the morning to go to work to find out your car doesn't wanna... and not having any other way to get to work. and having to call your boss at 7am to tell her your car overheated in the middle of a snowstorm on i-76 in philadelphia because your radiator burst and having to wait two hours in the snow without heat for stupid aaa to come tow you.

um, yeah, anyway... daily + project FTMFW

[bomjoon]

depends on the other car.

if its crap stick with your car if its better than your car...??

well then sell yours and put $$ on that :P hehe

i DD and track my evo cuz i like driving it. whenever i get into my other cars it feels weird.

[v-empire]

you have a race/dd out of a can.

its dependable while doing bolt on mods while driving around.

thats what i did with my EVO too as far as modding and daily dd. 387 whp, fun and dependable.

for these guys, they have a car made in the late to mid 90's with a bunch of parts to upgrade since it came to the US suited for non-tuners and most bought them used or broken. its a different ball game.

[bomjoon]

no ebo no more?? what happend?

[Zane98S14]

i wish i could afford an evo....been in love with them for years. I've heard mitsu is a pain in the ass

[v-empire]

no ebo no more?? what happend?

friend of a friend totalled it.split in half and motor and tranny hit another car, and flew about 300 yards. both of them walked out alive.


i wish i could afford an evo....been in love with them for years. I've heard mitsu is a pain in the ass

dont be mistaken with the evolution lancer and the mitsubishi corporation. they are two totally different engineering.

[Zane98S14]

I know, i was under the impression that warranty stuff etc for the evo's really screws everything. They give you a race car from the factory then tell you they'll null and void your warranty if you are found competing in any sort of track/timed event. There was a big writeup on some evo forum i was looking at. Its good that they are different as, from what i understand, mitsubishi tends to be sloppy in their work.

[SR20DETg20girl]

for these guys, they have a car made in the late to mid 90's with a bunch of parts to upgrade since it came to the US suited for non-tuners and most bought them used or broken. its a different ball game.my point exactly.

if you have an older car with some miles on it, if you make more power or whatnot it WILL affect the other systems, usually to the point of something breaking as they are worn and not originally designed/intended to handle the extra power/abuse. if you upgrade one thing it will affect others.

upgrade the engine? time to do your fuel system and cooling as well. transmission to handle that power. okay well now you can go fast but you need to be able to stop, gotta upgrade the brakes. all that power doesn't mean squat unless the suspension can handle it, time to upgrade that too. it's never ending (unless you start with a car like an evo or wrx in the first place which was designed for that sort of use) so yeah, older cars require much more "attention" when upgrading and are much more prone to breakage... at least in my opinion that is.

that was the case with my car. my very first DET-swap was in august of 2003. i didn't have any cash after buying the motor and converting to 5spd so i wound up cheaping out and not replacing other things i should have. the result? water pump burst. then the next month the radiator went. etc, etc.

now i have a fully built motor and upgraded everything else so that my car can handle being "fun". the result? a LOT of money spent, but finally a reliable daily driver that makes a bunch of power.

[v-empire]

I know, i was under the impression that warranty stuff etc for the evo's really screws everything. They give you a race car from the factory then tell you they'll null and void your warranty if you are found competing in any sort of track/timed event. There was a big writeup on some evo forum i was looking at. Its good that they are different as, from what i understand, mitsubishi tends to be sloppy in their work.

well, thats because its a street designed evo.

who on earth would warranty a car that is taken to the track?

only i do such things!!! :)

jk

well if you buy a track ready car, say a ferrarri f-xx or track ready modena, i dont even assume its warrantied when it hits the track. that would be suicidal for a company to warranty such claims.

my evo never gave any problems. only the drivetrain for a new car. burned the first clutch done in 4 weeks on the track.
synchros are messed up. swapped out for an exedy twinplate, dealer did it for free under warranty.
5 months later, synchros again, swapped out another twin plate and new syncros, warrantied work again. never had a problem with it until the car got wrecked.



now i have a fully built motor and upgraded everything else so that my car can handle being "fun". the result? a LOT of money spent, but finally a reliable daily driver that makes a bunch of power.

sexy pants, ms jacob.

[Zane98S14]

well, thats because its a street designed evo.

who on earth would warranty a car that is taken to the track?

only i do such things!!! :)

jk

well if you buy a track ready car, say a ferrarri f-xx or track ready modena, i dont even assume its warrantied when it hits the track. that would be suicidal for a company to warranty such claims.

my evo never gave any problems. only the drivetrain for a new car. burned the first clutch done in 4 weeks on the track.
synchros are messed up. swapped out for an exedy twinplate, dealer did it for free under warranty.
5 months later, synchros again, swapped out another twin plate and new syncros, warrantied work again. never had a problem with it until the car got wrecked.





O i understand but...idk just seems weird. O well i can't afford one anyways.

[RedS13pig]

Crappy daily driver and project car ftw. As long as your daily is reliable enough to get you around, definately keep the project off the road as much as possible so you can tune it :-)

[Beez_S13]

definitly go with 2 if you have the money. i have a daily right now, but only until i put my car back together. but im looking into getting a dd.

[bomjoon]

friend of a friend totalled it.split in half and motor and tranny hit another car, and flew about 300 yards. both of them walked out alive.



dont be mistaken with the evolution lancer and the mitsubishi corporation. they are two totally different engineering.


so you getting the x when they sell it here?

[v-empire]

i will get another one eventually.

my first car sale was an evo 5 makinen.

i bought it and sold it the next day.

i may want another evo-V or evo-2 someday.

X seems nice. i wont think about it till the day comes.

by far the best value for money. evo and sti :goodjob:

[babowc]

why wuold you want a crappy dd again?
unless you feel like driving around in shitbox all the time while your project car is down.. go for it.

get a nice dd thats good on gas, not only that, but also clean.
i dont understand the mentality of get a dd that looks like shit and you have a project car you would probably drive only so often.

maybe the meaning of project differs from person to person.
I had a daily that was my 'tuner' car.. you have no idea how much of a pain it was to bum rides everytime it was down and the time crunch you're always on.. it just doesn't allow any major mods.

all of my mods had to have been done within a weekend, if not, i would be without a car.. lol.

[NapalmS13]

I am pretty sure that i am out of money to finish it and have a a second car.
problems with the car are right now. i need to go to muffler shop and have maybe the bends in myexhaust adjusted if possible. and i need to either have the fenders flared and kill the s13 body lines. or buy new rims and tires that don't scrub and hit. oh yeah and i need much more power. i think a honda hung with me from 20-80 and then i left him to 120.