issues... coilovers...

[Casey]

okay i dont know what to think about my coilovers right now...

ill try to explain what happened

i lifted my car up in the air and decided okay im gonna check everything out and search for my oil leak. well i looked... and was like okay i cant find it blah blah i called tyler and dave and asked them what they thought... both told me the same thing... probably cuz they were in the same room... anyways.

after i stopped working on the oil leak... i was like okay im gonna raise my car up so that my rear camber is a little better and my front doesnt scrape on even the mildest speed bump...
so i take all 4 wheels off
adjust coilovers with meausreing tape.
tighten everything back up check everything...
tripple checked everything... no joke i checked it all multiple times.

so after i did that i went for a ride. :)
car handled okay... little soft cuz i removed my preload off the front springs. but it handled great.

well i came back in and i was gonna raise the front up a little more cuz it was sitting kinda weird leaning forward.

well i lift it up and take the fronts off.

i did pass side first. then drivers side.
when i got to the drivers side i was like huh :thinking: theres play in the spring... wtf m8

so i went back to the pass side and was like okay this one has play too... so i must have forgotton to put preload on the front.
the lock nuts were tight so i asumed this is what i did wrong

i then went to the drivers side and looked at it again. and my jaw dropped...
the spring had 3 inches of play.

so i immediatly asume the teeth on the coilvoers had stripped themselves smooth and the spring pushed them down... seemed logical to me...

*i had previously overtorqued the lock nuts... and recently fixed that over torquing. i was also running a good bit of preload. thought that all that added up could have made the teeth go bad. then when i ran the spring somewhat loose the spring poped the lock nut and broke it*
HOWEVER
this was not the case.

after taking the front coilovers off and inspecting them. the lock nuts are fine. not great. but fine. they didnt strip out. and thats not hte problem.

I DONT KNOW WHY THE COILOVER HAD THAT MUCH PLAY!

so i took the coilovers apart. and sat them next to eachother. with just the core shock part of the coil over....
they are the SAME.
omfg please someone shed some light on this i have no freaking clue.

i need my car by wednesday at the latest. preferably tomorrow i had plans..... and at the worst i can track some stock springs and struts down and use those. but i dont have my stocks anymore. i sold the rears cuz the struts werent blown. and the fronts i tried cutting the springs then trashed.

i relaly dont know what the problem is / was... it was definatly NOT RIGHT ...
ehhh
i relaly hope the strut isnt broken... :(

i think the strut could have been pulled outward too far for some reason... i dont know how this could have happened though.
im so confused... :(

SOMEONE PLEEEEASE shed some light on this

[v-empire]

a little defensive today?

[RPS13]

"you get what you pay for"
ever heard that before?

[MOOREOFSTEPHEN]

That doesn't help him.

I wish I knew what to say man but you got me on this one. I hope somebody has something wise to say! good luck!

[shawn shawn]

You sure you tightened the piss out of them? Hammer and all???

[Casey]

a little defensive today?

uhg yes. and you faggots on the phone suck.


"you get what you pay for"
ever heard that before?

okay
i shouldnt even reply
but thousands of people roll on megans.
they wouldnt be in buisness if their crap sucked.
so seriusly
zip it when you dont know anything


That doesn't help him.

I wish I knew what to say man but you got me on this one. I hope somebody has something wise to say! good luck!

yeah im gonna call MR and ask what the issue could be


You sure you tightened the piss out of them? Hammer and all???

i tightend the lock nuts really tight a while ago...
but they arent supposted to be that tight.
like...
the lock nuts arent the problem.
i think the strut piece went too far upwards IF thats possible.
because thats the only explanation i can think of for why it looked like it did on the car.

i took the struts out and apart. and sat them next to eachother.
and the cores are the same.
but i did push the "broken" strut all the way down and let it gas itself back up. i really should have measured them...

[v-empire]

a little defensive today?


uhg yes. and you faggots on the phone suck.



http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22363&highlight=defensive+today#post22363

[RPS13]

so seriusly
zip it when you dont know anything


back at you.

megans stuff does not necessarily mean quality. most people think of it as "good enough"
k bye

[v-empire]

come see me this weekend.

[Casey]

back at you.

megans stuff does not necessarily mean quality. most people think of it as "good enough"
k bye

thats why they are still in buisness and all...

seriously though. if thier parts sucked they wouldnt be in buisness.
honestly megans are alot safer than running stock springs and struts. or stock struts with lowering springs.
and need i mention the ricers who roll with sleve coilovers



and dave you suck lolz that was a long time ago ><

[v-empire]

no worrries. if its broken, send it back.
they ll send you a new one.

[Hammerhead-i Eaglethrust]

"you get what you pay for"
ever heard that before?

dumbass statement of the week.

go back to school. come back with a better reply that is not stupid or condescending.

[ThatS13Guy]

^ nice one maxima278 lol ^

[v-empire]

well, they are fairly cheap for coilovers.

good bang for the buck and for its purpose.

[ThatS13Guy]

yeah i plan on buying some if certain things dont keep me from saving still :( lol plus my job is cutting hours really bad....20 hours a week compared to 40 i was used to...anyone hiring for full time :)?

[RPS13]

dumbass statement of the week.

go back to school. come back with a better reply that is not stupid or condescending.

all im saying is if you buy cheap shit then you can expect it to be as good as someone that buys top dollar shit. he should have known what he was getting into. i think subconsciously he did. when all the other coilover setups are 800 and to save a hundred or so you buy megan, you get what you pay for.


thats why they are still in buisness and all...
seriously though. if thier parts sucked they wouldnt be in buisness.


no, they're in business becasue people like buying cheap shit.
ever heard of apc? they make cheap shit but they're in business.


well, they are fairly cheap for coilovers.
good bang for the buck for its purpose.
exactly. to lower car and adjust ride height. if you expect them to perform like a set of jic or tanabe you are mistaken.

[babowc]

Cheap is relative.
Quality isnt.

^What do you run?

JIC or Tanabe also have cheaper coilover systems as well.. don't generalize as the more "JDM" companies being elite than the others.

Elitists think Tein, JIC, Apex-i, etc. etc. are more elite than the cheaper Megan, Stance, or KTSSPL and such, but frankly, alot of people switch from those "JDM" brands over to the cheaper alternative and realize they're dampened better, performs better, etc. etc.

[Hammerhead-i Eaglethrust]

all im saying is if you buy cheap shit then you can expect it to be as good as someone that buys top dollar shit. he should have known what he was getting into. i think subconsciously he did. when all the other coilover setups are 800 and to save a hundred or so you buy megan, you get what you pay for.



no, they're in business becasue people like buying cheap shit.
ever heard of apc? they make cheap shit but they're in business.


exactly. to lower car and adjust ride height. if you expect them to perform like a set of jic or tanabe you are mistaken.



Back this up with some fact or customer reviews. To generalize something based on price.... well think about the fact you are on a 240 website.... 240SX = cheap, fun rwd. But are they junk? (in general I mean; I know some are, I've owned several). I only have experience with one megan racing product, and it's a part of the exhaust system on my S14, and I've never had a problem with it.

[Casey]

Cheap is relative.
Quality isnt.

^What do you run?

JIC or Tanabe also have cheaper coilover systems as well.. don't generalize as the more "JDM" companies being elite than the others.

Elitists think Tein, JIC, Apex-i, etc. etc. are more elite than the cheaper Megan, Stance, or KTSSPL and such, but frankly, alot of people switch from those "JDM" brands over to the cheaper alternative and realize they're dampened better, performs better, etc. etc.


yeah honestly what do you run?




but whatever ... anyways

SPECIAL thanks to dave for helping me out today :)
he came over and helped me fix the coils.
made sure the shocks hadnt blown. =D
LUCKILY they didnt.
and i STILL dont know why the strut portion was higher than the others...
but the shock is fine now.. we lifted the car up a couple inches and it handles much better than before.
i believe because of the nearer to stock roll and the rear camber is better than it was. also the steering is better because the tie rods are closer to level. :)

the problem is fixed. im going to check it next week. check all bolts ect ect. make sure its all good to go :)

and megans are ~ 800 now. depending where you go.

yes, saving up some more cash for better coils is a good idea. but im streeting these. they are definatly worth more than just slamming a car down.
no, they are just a single damper adjustment. but you dont need to dial in bound and rebound on the street.

street coilovers. the track shocks from megan blow quickly under extreme use. *been told by many people*

and im just going to tear these up and learn on them for a year or so. then im gonna get an s14 shell and swap these coils onto it, after i buy new nice coilovers for my current daily car *champagne 95 s14* which will be my track / fun car in the future.

i know they arent amazing but they are still good quality. have you had first hand experience with them?

[babowc]

Well,
Cheap parts, from my experience:

Ksports

those are the worst set of coilovers I've ever ran.
Hated it.

Megans were decent quality, couldn't ride on them as long as i wanted bc it got jacked.

Footwerks were much better than the latter, same deal couldn't ride of them bc they got jacked.

Now i'll be on Poweredbymax.. need to find out, since Ive yet to run these.

[Casey]

Well,
Cheap parts, from my experience:

Ksports

those are the worst set of coilovers I've ever ran.
Hated it.

Megans were decent quality, couldn't ride on them as long as i wanted bc it got jacked.

Footwerks were much better than the latter, same deal couldn't ride of them bc they got jacked.

Now i'll be on Poweredbymax.. need to find out, since Ive yet to run these.

yeah heard good stuff about those coils.
decent prices
dont get thier intercooler kit though its a tube and fin i/c kit. not as good as bar and plate.

[babowc]

Meh..
I just wanted to try it since it was fairly new and this car isnt my dd.

I got their rear arms with it.. ended up costing a pretty penny, but all the parts look "aiite"
lol.