Killswitch Performance SR Swap - Negative Review

[MongolPup]

This breaks my heart, it really does. I feel as though I am accepting a huge weight on my shoulders as I post this. But I think I have to.

This is going to be a long post; if you don’t believe that spending a huge amount of money on a swap/parts is worthy of a lot of dialog then I don’t want you to read this anyway.

So in April my KA decided it had had enough of my bullshit. I started shopping around for a place to do a swap for me. I needed it done quickly but well and I had a budget. I solicited quotes from a ton of places, including Mainstream, Lethal Injection, Tiger Racing, Killswitch, Mahdavi, JJSpec and Bailey Built Boost Kits. I see-sawed a lot during this step while I was grappling with the cost of the motor/its source, the quality of the labor, the level of customer service and more importantly the speed. I needed the car back because I needed to NOT be in metro Atlanta, and I needed a job. Plus all the time the car was gone I would just be sitting at my house twiddling my thumbs.

I finally decided on Killswitch. It was (in my eyes) your Average Joe shop; it received good marks in all of the things that I was concerned about. It didn’t have the prestige of Tiger Racing but didn’t have the cost of Lethal Injection, the motors weren’t made of solid gold like Bailey Built’s but I wasn’t scared of getting something Canadian like Mainstream.

So I ordered the motor and started working on parts. I used three retail sources: Enjuku Racing, Works Concepts and Gwinnett Place Nissan. Enjuku was (as always, Ken and BG haven’t let me down yet) a pleasure, and twice now on Zilvia Works Concepts has given me a monster package deal on things I needed (first brakes, now cooling) and they have received over $1000 of my money in the past 4 months because of their excellent business practices. Hit them up, ask for Eric and tell him I sent you. Gwinnett Place Nissan is certainly my West Convena, and they have received large amounts of cash because of it.

Now to the meat of the story. I wanted Tyler to do the swap using my parts/electronics and his motor, I wanted A/C, I wanted the factory side mount, and I wanted it done quickly. Every part I gave him was new and bought from a retail outlet except for the EBC, TT (new harness though) and oil PSI gauge. He did everything I wanted him to do and more:



I wanted him to keep all of my boxes; they are in my basement now.
I wanted all of my stock stuff the second it came off/out of the car; I have it all.
I wanted pictures before after and during the swap, and Carina has been fulfilling that request to the point that there is now apparently a CD of photos I will receive when I pick the car up. She even sent me a video of when they were able to crank the motor.
I wanted Tyler to call someone I knew when the motor showed up so that he could come be there when the oil pan and valve cover came off; I got a call one afternoon about how the motor was sitting on a pallet and did I still want someone to come and look at it.
I wanted constant updates since I had to leave the car and go back down to school for final exams; I got all the info I wanted and more.
I wanted to know if the clutch he recommended then installed was too intense for what I wanted; he told me to climb in and scoot the car to see if I liked the pedal feel. There was no “Well you’re just shit out of luck, it’s already in”. Not saying he would have pulled it out, but he didn’t act like it was too late.


Then we hit a few bumps. I know a lot of people have been waiting for this part of this write up, and I know a lot of people are smiling right now. Well, fuck you. I’m glad that your sense of self satisfaction comes at other people’s expense. I heard it ALL before the swap, and haven’t run into any of those problems yet. You know what I’m talking about. “Tyler buys shit motors”,“The swap is going to look like garbage and never run correctly”, “That motor is going to blow up in under a month”, “You’re an idiot for going to Killswitch”, “Tyler doesn’t know what he’s doing, why have all his built motors blown up?”, “You’re going to pay too much”, “Killswitch is nothing without David” etc etc etc. Some of those arguments MAY have merit in CERTAIN situations, and if you and I are on a first and last name basis and have talked about it in depth, I’m not talking to you.

The side mount intercooler never showed up. It had been about 4 weeks since I ordered the motor. It had “been shipped” 3 times. Obviously the car is not drivable. I needed it back well over a week before, and the car had been sitting in a state of suspended animation because everything but the gauges and SMIC were installed (the car will run without a TT/EBC/oil psi gauge, so I’m not at all mad they weren't in. The guy who I bought the holder from is at fault there). I wasn't supposed to be in Atlanta, and I wasn't supposed to be unemployed. However obviously neither of these things is rectifiable if I have NO way of getting around. I stewed in my own juices, and then when I realized that everyone who I told the story to called me a dumbass or asked me why I wasn’t saying anything about it, I piped up. I wasn’t too serious about it until I ran into what I saw as a purposeful lack of communication. Whether or not that was actually true I’ll never know; I will certainly agree that I was looking at the situation through an amber lens tainted with frustration.

I delivered an ultimatum. Whether I should have done that or not I still don’t know. What I do know is that I got a response literally within a minute. Tyler was understandably incensed; I think anyone shop owner would be when you inform them that if you don’t have an intercooler in the next couple of days you’re towing the car out. Once we both agreed that it was the situation we were upset with and not each other, he instantly started working to rectify the situation. There was give and take in that; we both lost hundreds of dollars in parts and labor over this. I’m not going to post exactly what he did or how much I paid but we decided that it would be prudent for me to buy a front mount and relocate the battery. He got to work on that instantly.

I took delivery of the car. I left town the next day, like I said I was going to. I get down here and have the car looked over by a few people who KNOW SR’s. Here is what they found. Pictures are in the next few posts.

FUBAR:
Cam angle sensor advanced; FULLY ADVANCED TIMING.....15+ degrees advanced, a total of 30+ of base timing.Verified with timing gun.
MAF plug broken that jiggles and causes the car to shudder. Said he didn’t have one, but I could get one later.
Fan wiring too thin/overloaded/looks like shit....cut wires hanging out, just looks bad.
Old black opaque clutch fluid, should have been bled and changed as with any clutch swap
Spark plugs were STILL the original ones form Japland and had a TWICE too large gap.
Mess of direct battery power wires/exposed wire zip tied to fuel line.
No clamp on idle control valve....causes boost leak.
Original JDM oil filter with major dent in it.....This is the ORIGINAL filter that was on the motor in Japan, was the oil changed? Shop owner should KNOW the S14 SR has a different filter.
Oil pan had a 2 inch deep dent in it right next to the oil pickup....could have easily starved the motor of oil.
Massive F3 plug rats nest of wires...can’t even close the F3 plug latch to ensure a proper connection.
No tranny sensors hooked up. No reverse/neutral/5th sensors in. Reverse lights don’t work.
No blowoff valve. Ran out of gas to weld it, I had to leave.
Turbo timer wired incorrectly and didn’t function, No constant power source, no line to e-brake for safety/theft prevention.
Coupler inside of coupler (not reducer) on hotside end tank.

Technically works, but is shoddy:
Random t-line with bolt in it that runs to boost controller.
Vacuum cap on throttle body halfway on.
Fuel line halfway on barb.
Power wire runs past/touches ECU...Magnetism and computers don’t play nice with each other.
Random twisted and looped wires that go no where coming out of ECU.
Auto ECU.
S13 tranny.
Low water/coolant level...was below the first row of the radiator.
Crooked FMIC mounting, sits way too low.
Fog lights jammed into bumper/not bolted in.
Wiring hanging down in passenger and driver foot wells.
No bracket on ECU. Yes I have one but still. I wasn’t provided one, it was after I found out they didn’t have one that I said I did.
Wiring is shredded on my driver’s side foglight. It was fine when I put the car into the shop. Went to pick it up and it didn’t work, he said maybe I didn’t plug it up, he gets under the car and said no it’s hooked up, bulb must be out. THE HARNESS IS OBVIOUSLY MESSED UP. If you are looking at it under the car you can see that it is.

Not necessarily professional:
No ring terminals on any ground.
Ring clamp not trimmed, cut Bailey Built technician.
Entire hot pipe held to turbo by what looks like rad hose.
Heater control valve missing. You don't need it, but why was it taken off?
Same belts/fuel filter.

This motor could have/should have blown up on the way down here. The car was supposedly DONE, just waiting on the gauge holder/SMIC. So nothing but the TT/FMIC is excusable as him being in a hurry.....because he wasn’t in a hurry when he did the other stuff. We had to start fixing stuff ourselves, because who knows if it would have made it back up there/can you trust a person who screwed it up the first time to repair it?

“Why didn’t you see this stuff when you picked it up?”. I’ve never owned an SR, much less installed one. I’m not going to lie, I don’t always know what I’m looking at. That’s why I paid a professional to do it for me. The guy who dropped me off drives a Ford Lightning and the guy who checked in on me has an RB25. They knew as much as I did.

Misc notices: I’m taking screenshots of this post and this thread. If it ever disappears, PM me and I’ll send you my most recent copy. I don’t know why it would, but a lot of people seem to believe that it will. Secondly, everyone feel free to post up if you want challenge me about the story. I have nothing better to do than sit here and make you kids look stupid. Feel free to ask me about my experience. I have already spoken to two supermods and flip about this thread. DO NOT POST SHIT IN THIS THREAD. THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER. YOU WILL BE REPORTED AND HANDLED ACCORDINGLY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THEM. THIS IS ABOUT MINE.

I’m sorry Tyler. I really like you as a person. I’ve enjoyed hanging out with you. But from the business standpoint, this swap is garbage.

Conclusion: It is now my personal opinion that I would not go to Killswitch for a swap or anything involving wiring or bolts.

I want to give a big thank you to Pure JDM, Slip N Slide S14, Broke240, Echonova, AFSil80 and Boostbeef. When we figured out there were problems, these guys were willing/offered to put their lives on hold to make sure that I got the help I needed to fix the problems. Tools, garages, time, advice, parts, whatever I needed.

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[MongolPup]

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[MongolPup]

I am going to be VERY upset if this gets deleted or closed.

I talked to Casey, Flip and David on the phone. It is not going ANYWHERE.

[MongolPup]

:goodjob:

If you hadnt replied like this I would have typed up PMs to atleast flip, casey, scato and babo.

Sorry about your bad experience.

Don't worry, this is beyond serious for me. I hunted down phone numbers. No PM, no text. Called. Actually talked to. I didn't just leave a voice mail.

[Echonova]

I want to give a big thank you to Pure JDM, Slip N Slide S14, Broke240, Echonova, AFSil80 and Boostbeef. When we figured out there were problems, these guys were willing/offered to put their lives on hold to make sure that I got the help I needed to fix the problems. Tools, garages, time, advice, parts, whatever I needed.

Offer still stands. I know I recommended Killswitch (as I have to others as well) and I was one of the reasons you went there. I would like to hear the other side of this, but anything I can do to help I will.

[afwfjustin]

That's a lot of pictures! I was there as the swap was being finished. I will say, that a lot of the issues might have been because Tyler was in a rush to get Jim back on the road. I do realize that the swap was supposed to be complete prior to that but sometimes people do things in stages and he probably had to finish up a lot of the stuff at the last minute (like the fuel pump when I was there) because Jim was in such a hurry.

I did notice a few things that looked iffy, but I figured it was because Jim had to leave and that he'd come back and get the rest done (like the lack of a bov because the gas for the welder ran out).

It's sad to see a lot of the stuff neglected though, like the clutch fluid, dented oil pan, dented oil filter, etc.

With that said, I do like Tyler and Carina a lot and am still planning on having them do my fmic piping - hopefully there won't be double couplers on my intercooler though :)

I am hoping Tyler will chime in with an apology and offer to fix everything.

[MongolPup]

I am hoping Tyler will chime in with an apology and offer to fix everything.

It's too late for that. It didn't seem like a good idea to drive the car period, much less another 300 miles, so we had to start working on it.


Not to fuel the fire, but there is a lot of chatter that doesn't need to be here, I suggest we keep this between the Parties involved only.

No. Let them know the stakes. Your post is the first one I haven't liked.

[MongolPup]

sorry to hear this, because tyler and carina both seem like genuinely cool people.


I have no personal hard feelings. I have ALL KINDS of business hard feelings. I don***8217;t wish that I***8217;d never met Carina or Tyler. I wish I had never let Carina or Tyler work on my car.


Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I think I recognize your car now from Top Speed Saturday, am I right? Sorry I didn't come over and chit chat.

Yeah that was me with Bryant, David and Val.

[Trap Star]

That's a lot of pictures! I was there as the swap was being finished. I will say, that a lot of the issues might have been because Tyler was in a rush to get Jim back on the road. I do realize that the swap was supposed to be complete prior to that but sometimes people do things in stages and he probably had to finish up a lot of the stuff at the last minute (like the fuel pump when I was there) because Jim was in such a hurry.

I did notice a few things that looked iffy, but I figured it was because Jim had to leave and that he'd come back and get the rest done (like the lack of a bov because the gas for the welder ran out).

It's sad to see a lot of the stuff neglected though, like the clutch fluid, dented oil pan, dented oil filter, etc.

I'm 99% sure that Jim plainly stated he had a strict budget and time frame for the swap prior to work starting. If Killswitch couldn't do it in the time frame specified they should have passed on the job or given a more realistic estimate of the time needed to complete everything and gone from there.

[MongolPup]

I'm 99% sure that Jim plainly stated he had a strict budget and time frame for the swap prior to work starting. If Killswitch couldn't do it in the time frame specified they should have passed on the job or given a more realistic estimate of the time needed to complete everything and gone from there.

Aye. I went a week and a half/$500+ overbudget and haven't bitched about that. Or the cost of the stuff I've had to buy to fix this thing.

[MongolPup]

Very good write up. Thank you for including pics to back up the words. As i am also searching for a shop to the swap in the S13 this could prove helpful.

My pleasure. That is the point of a review. Even if it only helped one person, it was worth writing.

[Boostbeef]

this has to be the nicest negative review thread I've ever seen. I will say that upon first glance, me and peter only spotted a few things we didn't like, but we weren't really going over it with a fine tooth comb either.

all in all, not the best shop swap i've seen...but FAR from the worst.

[MongolPup]

It's almost 1am, I have to leave for work @ 5:30am... but in all seriousness. I can't sleep because of this.

I've been Tylonal PM'ing it. This is a nightmare come to life for me.

[Trap Star]

I'm sure Tyler is a smart enough guy to realize that this can just be a lesson or a call to step up his game a bit. IMO most reasonable people are nice people, and Tyler is definitely a reasonable, nice guy.

Mistakes were made, what happened can't be changed but it can be learned from.

Oh, I also wanted to say that we need more write-ups like this one in the reviews section. It's well written and isn't designed to start shit. I think we should consider some formatting rules for Vendor/Buyer/Seller reviews.

[J Squared]

Hey, just curious, where was the sidemount coming from? Was it just a stock sidemount? Who ordered it, and why was it all delayed? Sorry for the Q's, that just seems weird. Sidemounts are all over the place.

[afwfjustin]

I'm 99% sure that Jim plainly stated he had a strict budget and time frame for the swap prior to work starting. If Killswitch couldn't do it in the time frame specified they should have passed on the job or given a more realistic estimate of the time needed to complete everything and gone from there.

Oh I'm not doubting you there. I know Jim was on time constraints and budget but I also know how jobs can get. When you're tackling many different jobs at the same time, sometimes things can get pushed back if you're tired, parts not in, thinking you can get something done tomorrow quickly, etc. If all of Tyler's swaps were like this he'd have gone out of business a long time ago.

I'm just saying, that I doubt Tyler doesn't know how to do all of this correctly - he just might be working too slowly or not have people on staff to get everything done in a timely manner. When you only have to pay yourself and your girlfriend, thinking of getting a third employee (who could help get more work done) that you have to pay would make you not want to get one. At the same time, your work takes longer and when someone comes along with a time constraint and you have to finish everything at the last moment, this happens.

My guess is that, Tyler put a lot of the work off because he was busy with so many things and told Jim that it was further along than it really was. He was probably planning on cleaning a lot of it up after the car was brought back to do the bov.

Tyler's not a dumb guy, he probably knew this was coming but due to time constraints and Jim needing the car so quickly to leave town he couldn't do anything about it. This is just my prediction.

Since Jim had/is having to get a lot of this fixed out of town and Tyler won't be doing a lot of the work, he should probably think about refunding Jim some of the money from the labor out of good merit.

[MongolPup]

Hey, just curious, where was the sidemount coming from? Was it just a stock sidemount? Who ordered it, and why was it all delayed? Sorry for the Q's, that just seems weird. Sidemounts are all over the place.

Stock S14 SR sidemount. It was supposed to be coming on the pallet with the motor, to Tyler from his supplier. Unless the motor didn't come on a pallet. He said he called around.

I then called TR and talked to Sammy, who said he didn't have any. I then asked if Tyler had just called, because Tyler told me he had just talked to Sammy. Sammy said "oh yeah, Tyler called ABOUT A MOTOR". Weird eh?


checking in. Jim lemme know if you need help this weekend, i can steal away for sometime and bring some tools and low temp solder if you need it.

Do you have a soldering gun? We don't and need one.


He was probably planning on cleaning a lot of it up after the car was brought back to do the bov.


So he risked blowing it up in a couple of different ways to clean it up later? If he had said "you can't drive this car, it's going to explode" I would have listened. I wouldn't have been happy, but I wouldn't have driven it away. I don't like these hypothetical situations we are drawing up here.

[hellfire]

Oh my god. Alright, here we go...

FUBAR:
Cam angle sensor advanced; FULLY ADVANCED TIMING.....15+ degrees advanced, a total of 30+ of base timing.Verified with timing gun.

I'm not convinced thats how it left my shop. Your car ran perfectly when it left.

MAF plug broken that jiggles and causes the car to shudder. Said he didn***8217;t have one, but I could get one later.

I told you and showed you the plug..

Fan wiring too thin/overloaded/looks like shit....cut wires hanging out, just looks bad.

I left the stock fan plug on purpose. You mentioned wanting to have everything to be able to put it back to stock, or something along those lines. So I only cut on wire on there, and left that incase you ever wanted to use stock fans again.

Old black opaque clutch fluid, should have been bled and changed as with any clutch swap

Huh? When you swap a motor, it has nothing to do with bleeding the clutch.. Never was that discussed, never was that implied. Or charged. I have no idea why you would think that.

Spark plugs were STILL the original ones form Japland and had a TWICE too large gap.

I never claimed to have swapped the plugs for you. Did you see it on the invoice? Nope. You were on an UBER strict budget. Those spark plugs were fine, as the motor ran, and obviously got you 300miles home. That is something you can do on your own, later. When you got the money.

Mess of direct battery power wires/exposed wire zip tied to fuel line.

No wires were exposed when you left the shop. Also, that jumbled mess of wires are yours. I told you I was going to relocate it, and you said don't worry, your going to pull out the wires later.

No clamp on idle control valve....causes boost leak.

First legitimate issue. My apologies, I must have overlooked it. Once again, thats why I nicely asked you not to show up until its done. As when you look over my shoulder, and ask questions the whole day, its distracting and I can't concentrate.

Original JDM oil filter with major dent in it.....This is the ORIGINAL filter that was on the motor in Japan, was the oil changed? Shop owner should KNOW the S14 SR has a different filter.

I never claimed to have changed the filter. I told you the stock one was on there, and told you to do an oil change. Once again, we talked about this, you already knew this. Why complain now? Seems dumb.

Oil pan had a 2 inch deep dent in it right next to the oil pickup....could have easily starved the motor of oil.

No it didn't. In fact, when the motor came in, I took pictures of everything and sent them to you. Maybe you bottomed out on the way home? There were no dents here. Perfectly flat.

Massive F3 plug rats nest of wires...can***8217;t even close the F3 plug latch to ensure a proper connection.

Thats how the harness looks.. You cannot latch the latch normally. It clips down, but it doesn't latch all the way normally. I guess I could have taped those up for you..

No blowoff valve. Ran out of gas to weld it, I had to leave.

Yep. You decided last minute to go with a FMIC. You also brought the flange hours before you wanted to leave. I happened to look at the tank gauge before I started and noticed it low. I didn't want to run out halfway through and leave you stuck here when I knew you needed to leave. I could have installed it. Or it could have happened to leave you stranded. I decided to let you know of the situation, and said you could come to get it welded up when you return. NO CHARGE.

Turbo timer wired incorrectly and didn***8217;t function, No constant power source, no line to e-brake for safety/theft prevention.

Your harness you provided was incorrect. The last minute I wired everything. And there is a power source.. Or it wouldn't come on. I did tell you it didn't work properly, but I didn't get a chance to troubleshoot. Now did I.

Coupler inside of coupler (not reducer) on hotside end tank.

Yep, once again, you decided last minute to have the FMIC. I didn't have the correct reducer in stock. They provide products exactly like that, with a reducer section inside. I'm sure you've seen them. Did the coupler blow? It looks intact to me. I did what I could to get you on the road that day.

Technically works, but is shoddy:
Random t-line with bolt in it that runs to boost controller.

Thats for the BOV.. Not random. Look at its placement. C'mon. I showed you this.

Vacuum cap on throttle body halfway on.

They are small caps. They only go on that far. Go try and put it farther, its a tight little bugger. Its not going anywhere.

Fuel line halfway on barb.

Not halfway on.. The clamp is on the barb, and there is extra line to spare. Its fine.. Just becuase its not 1/2in forward doesn't mean its wrong.

Power wire runs past/touches ECU...Magnetism and computers don***8217;t play nice with each other.

I followed YOUR wiring. The power wire is also sheilded.. I run every relocation kit like that, and have NEVER had a problem. NEVER.

Random twisted and looped wires that go no where coming out of ECU.

Are you talking of the black and white wires? They are tapped in for an SAFC or something like that. Came on the harness like that. I could have clipped them for you..

Auto ECU.

Your really complaining about this!? I told you about this, and you told me you were happy about this so you wouldn't have to worry about a speed limiter. You were HAPPY about this. Let me repeat. And you knew right when the motor got here about that. I told you.

S13 tranny.

Ok...

Low water/coolant level...was below the first row of the radiator.

You watched me fill, and bleed the entire coolant system. You wanted water back in there after I installed the Thermostat, at the very last second. You said you were going to pickup some Water Wetter. There were no bubbles, or lack of coolant. Even the overflow was filled the correct level.

Crooked FMIC mounting, sits way too low.

Its as high as possibe. Its nearly touching the headlight brackets. Take a picture of where its mounted. You want me to put it in front of the headlight? Also, again. I told, AND showed you this. You said "Well this thing already hates speedbumps, no biggie". Or something like that.

Fog lights jammed into bumper/not bolted in.

We didn't take the Fog Lights out...

Wiring hanging down in passenger and driver foot wells.

Thats your wiring?! The only thing that I see is the vacuum line for the Boost Controller. Which, again you stated that you were putting the new guage pod in there, and pulling everything out. So I didn't cut it and put it up higher like normal so you could do all that easy. You specifically even said "I don't care, just throw it all in there, it can look like ass I am going to pull it all out shortly" Right?!

No bracket on ECU. Yes I have one but still. I wasn***8217;t provided one, it was after I found out they didn***8217;t have one that I said I did.

You came here, and picked up your stock ECU, and your other stock parts. That IS the bracket that I needed to put the ECU on the wall. You left it at home. Silvia ECU's mount on the other side. Thus, it doesn't work. So.. You took the bracket home, I didn't have it. I had the JDM one, but that does no good. You said "Dang-it! I left that at home. I almost sold it to the guy with my ECU, I barely remembered to pull it off" You told us to just put it in, and you would put the bracket in.

Wiring is shredded on my driver***8217;s side foglight. It was fine when I put the car into the shop. Went to pick it up and it didn***8217;t work, he said maybe I didn***8217;t plug it up, he gets under the car and said no it***8217;s hooked up, bulb must be out. THE HARNESS IS OBVIOUSLY MESSED UP. If you are looking at it under the car you can see that it is.

I didn't get back under your car to check the lights. And I think you are confusing two things. Your HEADLIGHT bulb, is the one I mentioned might be out. And obviously it was, because we swapped plugs, and it still didn't work. I don't even remember saying anything about a fog light bulb. Nor did I strip the wires, or whatever you are possibly saying. If the wiring is messed up.. Ok? Your car is lowered, wires can scrape, who knows. How is that my fault?

Not necessarily professional:
No ring terminals on any ground.

Yes there are. There aren't on 2 wires I think. It wasn't meant to be left like that, just until I got more terminals. You took the car though, and I forgot, honestly.

Ring clamp not trimmed, cut Bailey Built technician.

Huh?

Entire hot pipe held to turbo by what looks like rad hose.

Its not radiator hose.. And what else is your hotpipe supposed to be held on by? Glue? What does that statement mean? Its an OEM nissan coupler. Just trimmed to fit your application.

Heater control valve missing. You don't need it, but why was it taken off?

Because.. You don't need it. Sometimes they get stuck and cause you to over heat. Why leave something on when it serves no purpose. Just line the upper chain guide on KA's.

Same belts/fuel filter.

You weren't charged, nor did you ask for it. Those are not part of a budget swap. Belts are something a customer can handle on their own, if they don't have the budget for us to install them. Same with fuel filter.

Also, that picture of your downpipe and tranny mount. You provided the parts. Look how far that gap is. Its 2in at least. It doesn't fit. Your parts. Don't fit. What do you want me to do? How is that my shops fault?

Plus, after everything was said and done, Carina asked you to look over everything, if you had any questions, or things you saw that you didn't like. You said nope, just that you wanted me to take you on a test drive before you paid.

I think that most of these things are VERY petty, and looks like you are trying to come up with dumb things to post. I don't really see why.


Are any of those taped connections soldered?

Just cause the tape wrapping looks really horrible

Actually, all my connections are shrinkwrapped. You can notice them in the pictures. The only ones with tape are the ones that are under the steering column, because they are SPLICED, not just a connection of two wires. No way to shrinkwrap that.


Stock S14 SR sidemount. It was supposed to be coming on the pallet with the motor, to Tyler from his supplier. Unless the motor didn't come on a pallet. He said he called around.

I then called TR and talked to Sammy, who said he didn't have any. I then asked if Tyler had just called, because Tyler told me he had just talked to Sammy. Sammy said "oh yeah, Tyler called ABOUT A MOTOR". Weird eh?


Weird? What you think I'm trying to buy a motor from Sammy? LoL..

I called Sammy, just to ask if he had a Sidemount for you. I didn't ask, or inquire about any motors. There is a huge communication gap there, and maybe he misunderstood.

I also called NAD, Jarco, RIP Garage, and others, to try and hunt one down for you.

Yes, my motors come on pallets, why do you think I have a stack of pallets outside. And just like I told you, your sidemount arrived already. I wasn't lying, or making anything up. Our guy just forgot to put it on there, as most motorsets don't come with it. We had him get one just for you.

Tyler

[Shane]

Well glad to see both sides now. Im thinking it was just a time thing. Im not blaming Tyler, if he went over the things with the customer he did his part IMO. Ill keep you guys on the list :cheers:

[MongolPup]

Writing my response now, thank you to everyone in advance for their patience.

[Michael]

So mongol pup specifically asked for the responses to be kept, and specifically went out of his way to make sure this thread wouldn't get censored, and the mods STILL deleted shit.

what the fuck is wrong with you people?

[Shane]

So mongol pup specifically asked for the responses to be kept, and specifically went out of his way to make sure this thread wouldn't get censored, and the mods STILL deleted shit.

what the fuck is wrong with you people?
i think another one just got deleted from Trap Star

[MongolPup]

I don***8217;t have time to answer everything right off the bat, I***8217;ll get to what I can. Bear with me please. Tyler is in bold.

I'm not convinced thats how it left my shop. Your car ran perfectly when it left.

Did I pull over to the side of the road and change it?

It ran fine in Warner Robins and in Statesboro. Doesn***8217;t mean it wasn***8217;t about to let loose. We don***8217;t know how it made it here, but it did,

I told you and showed you the plug..

You seem to miss the point. On the things you told me, I mentioned that. But the fact is they were still wrong at that moment in time. You. Did. Them. Wrong. And couldn***8217;t fix them.

I left the stock fan plug on purpose. You mentioned wanting to have everything to be able to put it back to stock, or something along those lines. So I only cut on wire on there, and left that incase you ever wanted to use stock fans again.

I don***8217;t remember saying that, and I have a pretty good memory. I was going for sleeper with the SMIC and exhaust, but that went out the window. And why use small gauge wire to power both fans off one harness wire?

Huh? When you swap a motor, it has nothing to do with bleeding the clutch.. Never was that discussed, never was that implied. Or charged. I have no idea why you would think that.

Didn***8217;t say motor swap. Said clutch install. You installed a clutch for me.

I never claimed to have swapped the plugs for you. Did you see it on the invoice? Nope. You were on an UBER strict budget. Those spark plugs were fine, as the motor ran, and obviously got you 300miles home. That is something you can do on your own, later. When you got the money.

Everyone is playing on my budget. You never said ***8220;plugs are this much, will you pay***8221;.
You didn***8217;t even offer. You can***8217;t play that off on my money. And when you said $400 for the FMIC and $180 for the relocate kit and install, didn***8217;t I cough it up? Like I did for the thermostat install? Come on man.

No wires were exposed when you left the shop. Also, that jumbled mess of wires are yours. I told you I was going to relocate it, and you said don't worry, your going to pull out the wires later.

The red power wire was mine, and I pulled it out. What other wires could possibly be mine? Jumbled mess with the ECU and under the hood is mine? How?

First legitimate issue. My apologies, I must have overlooked it. Once again, thats why I nicely asked you not to show up until its done. As when you look over my shoulder, and ask questions the whole day, its distracting and I can't concentrate.

YOU NEVER SAID THAT. EVER. You never said please don***8217;t come. Give me a bible, I***8217;ll swear on it. WOW. That is just***8230;.

I never claimed to have changed the filter. I told you the stock one was on there, and told you to do an oil change. Once again, we talked about this, you already knew this. Why complain now? Seems dumb.

We figured out that the S13 filter doesn***8217;t work on the S14. Why couldn***8217;t you have figured that out. Did you change the oil or not? Because you charged me for it.

No it didn't. In fact, when the motor came in, I took pictures of everything and sent them to you. Maybe you bottomed out on the way home? There were no dents here. Perfectly flat.

I must have crawled under the car and beat the hell out of it while draining the rad fluid and advancing my timing.

Yep. You decided last minute to go with a FMIC. You also brought the flange hours before you wanted to leave. I happened to look at the tank gauge before I started and noticed it low. I didn't want to run out halfway through and leave you stuck here when I knew you needed to leave. I could have installed it. Or it could have happened to leave you stranded. I decided to let you know of the situation, and said you could come to get it welded up when you return. NO CHARGE.

Do you need gas to weld aluminum? I never said you didn***8217;t tell me. Read that. I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

Your harness you provided was incorrect. The last minute I wired everything. And there is a power source.. Or it wouldn't come on. I did tell you it didn't work properly, but I didn't get a chance to troubleshoot. Now did I.

No, you said ***8220;huh. I think this is one of the ones you have to drive around more for it to turn on***8221;.

Yep, once again, you decided last minute to have the FMIC. I didn't have the correct reducer in stock. They provide products exactly like that, with a reducer section inside. I'm sure you've seen them. Did the coupler blow? It looks intact to me. I did what I could to get you on the road that day.

Yes, a coupler did blow off in Warner Robins. Thanks for asking. I posted in another thread that if you had said ***8220;This car isn***8217;t safe to drive***8221; I wouldn***8217;t have driven it away.

Technically works, but is shoddy:
Random t-line with bolt in it that runs to boost controller.

They are small caps. They only go on that far. Go try and put it farther, its a tight little bugger. Its not going anywhere.

I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

Not halfway on.. The clamp is on the barb, and there is extra line to spare. Its fine.. Just becuase its not 1/2in forward doesn't mean its wrong.

I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

I followed YOUR wiring. The power wire is also sheilded.. I run every relocation kit like that, and have NEVER had a problem. NEVER.

My non functioning amp wiring? And maybe I did it wrong. Doesn***8217;t mean you should. You know better than that.

Are you talking of the black and white wires? They are tapped in for an SAFC or something like that. Came on the harness like that. I could have clipped them for you.

I mean the mess of looped wires up in the footwell. There are numerous pictures of them.

Your really complaining about this!? I told you about this, and you told me you were happy about this so you wouldn't have to worry about a speed limiter. You were HAPPY about this. Let me repeat. And you knew right when the motor got here about that. I told you.

I took your word on it working fine, but I am hearing otherwise. And they have speed limiters.

Ok...


So you didn***8217;t order me an S14 SR motorset? It***8217;s not a set if everything is pieced together.

You watched me fill, and bleed the entire coolant system. You wanted water back in there after I installed the Thermostat, at the very last second. You said you were going to pickup some Water Wetter. There were no bubbles, or lack of coolant. Even the overflow was filled the correct level.

I have picked up some. And when I opened the cap, the water was down to the first fin. So did you do something wrong elsewhere or did I suck the fluid out with a straw?

Its as high as possibe. Its nearly touching the headlight brackets. Take a picture of where its mounted. You want me to put it in front of the headlight? Also, again. I told, AND showed you this. You said "Well this thing already hates speedbumps, no biggie". Or something like that.

Any lowered car hates speedbumps, that doesn***8217;t mean the IC isn***8217;t too low.

We didn't take the Fog Lights out...

How is then that they are both completely unbolted? Had I been driving them around like that, holding them on the car with sheer willpower? They fit in there perfectly when I dropped it off.

Thats your wiring?! The only thing that I see is the vacuum line for the Boost Controller. Which, again you stated that you were putting the new guage pod in there, and pulling everything out. So I didn't cut it and put it up higher like normal so you could do all that easy. You specifically even said "I don't care, just throw it all in there, it can look like ass I am going to pull it all out shortly" Right?!

I said put it in there, not make it possible for me to rip it out with my feet while driving.

This is how I know you have no leg to stand on. You are commenting on stuff like that. Focus on REAL issues. Don***8217;t nitpick the small things that could be logically explained, like how we had to take some stuff apart to find the problems. Obviously I didn***8217;t leave there with the ECU on my rug. But it didn***8217;t have a bracket. Deal with the big things. I don***8217;t need to tell you that posts like this don***8217;t help you.

You came here, and picked up your stock ECU, and your other stock parts. That IS the bracket that I needed to put the ECU on the wall. You left it at home. Silvia ECU's mount on the other side. Thus, it doesn't work. So.. You took the bracket home, I didn't have it. I had the JDM one, but that does no good. You said "Dang-it! I left that at home. I almost sold it to the guy with my ECU, I barely remembered to pull it off" You told us to just put it in, and you would put the bracket in.

As long as you are admitting customers need to provide their own parts.

I didn't get back under your car to check the lights. And I think you are confusing two things. Your HEADLIGHT bulb, is the one I mentioned might be out. And obviously it was, because we swapped plugs, and it still didn't work. I don't even remember saying anything about a fog light bulb. Nor did I strip the wires, or whatever you are possibly saying. If the wiring is messed up.. Ok? Your car is lowered, wires can scrape, who knows. How is that my fault?

You looked at the fog light. You got on the ground to look at it. I pointed out that it didn***8217;t work. You said it was the bulb.

Yes there are. There aren't on 2 wires I think. It wasn't meant to be left like that, just until I got more terminals. You took the car though, and I forgot, honestly.

Thank you for admitting that.

Huh?

A ring clamp that wasn***8217;t trimmed cut someone while we were fixing the car.

Because.. You don't need it. Sometimes they get stuck and cause you to over heat. Why leave something on when it serves no purpose. Just line the upper chain guide on KA's.

I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

Same belts/fuel filter.

You weren't charged, nor did you ask for it. Those are not part of a budget swap. Belts are something a customer can handle on their own, if they don't have the budget for us to install them. Same with fuel filter.

Also, that picture of your downpipe and tranny mount. You provided the parts. Look how far that gap is. Its 2in at least. It doesn't fit. Your parts. Don't fit. What do you want me to do? How is that my shops fault?

Plus, after everything was said and done, Carina asked you to look over everything, if you had any questions, or things you saw that you didn't like. You said nope, just that you wanted me to take you on a test drive before you paid.

My apologies. I should have had someone else at the shop with me. I trusted you since I didn***8217;t know what stuff like the timing should look like.

I think that most of these things are VERY petty, and looks like you are trying to come up with dumb things to post. I don't really see why.

The last list was the nitpicky list. I said that.

Weird? What you think I'm trying to buy a motor from Sammy? LoL..

I called Sammy, just to ask if he had a Sidemount for you. I didn't ask, or inquire about any motors. There is a huge communication gap there, and maybe he misunderstood.

I also called NAD, Jarco, RIP Garage, and others, to try and hunt one down for you.

Yes, my motors come on pallets, why do you think I have a stack of pallets outside. And just like I told you, your sidemount arrived already. I wasn't lying, or making anything up. Our guy just forgot to put it on there, as most motorsets don't come with it. We had him get one just for you.

When did you say that? Was that in the PM where you accused me of libel? That other stuff wasn***8217;t directly your fault. This is. That***8217;s the way in which things have changed. And I didn***8217;t think you were buying a motor from Sammy, but that is what he said to me on the phone (***8220;Tyler called about a motor***8221;).

There seems to be some underlying theme here of me setting out to ruin you by sucking fluid out of the radiator and beating the shit out of the oil pan while advancing the timing. People are watching your replies intently. Is this what you want to say? I don***8217;t buy that.
Do they buy that? Do YOU buy that?

Chad was saying that when all those junkers have bad reviews it***8217;s was like ehhhh but my car was different. There was no reason for it not to be done correctly. I wanted my car to be a secret, but for the greater good that can't be true.

[hellfire]

BJ: I decided to reply to your reply even though it was deleted. Apparently you had something to say, so I'll give it a response.

ME= RED

BJ= BLUE


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Originally Posted by hellfire http://240atlanta.com/forums/images/vblue/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?p=737573#post737573)
Oh my god. Alright, here we go...



MAF plug broken that jiggles and causes the car to shudder. Said he didn***8217;t have one, but I could get one later.

I told you and showed you the plug..

My question would be, if you knew about it, why didn't you fix it?

Did you not read it fully? I did not have a plug on hand. I had SOHC pigtails, but no dual. That is stated already..



Quote:
Old black opaque clutch fluid, should have been bled and changed as with any clutch swap

Huh? When you swap a motor, it has nothing to do with bleeding the clutch.. Never was that discussed, never was that implied. Or charged. I have no idea why you would think that.
I think most people would have assumed that the clutch would be bled. I can understand that someone doing a swap in their driveway wouldn't do it, but a shop should.

I think you guys are misunderstanding. The clutch never becomes unbled when you swap a motor. The clutch master stays connected to the clutch line, which stays connected to the clutch slave. They all STAY BLED. So why would I need to bleed it? I don't. If his clutch slave wasn't bled, then he wouldn't be able to drive it away.


Quote:
Spark plugs were STILL the original ones form Japland and had a TWICE too large gap.

I never claimed to have swapped the plugs for you. Did you see it on the invoice? Nope. You were on an UBER strict budget. Those spark plugs were fine, as the motor ran, and obviously got you 300miles home. That is something you can do on your own, later. When you got the money.
If you felt his budget was too low why didn't you tell him to come back when he had more money? Plugs are one of those things that I would expect in any swap, especially one performed by a shop.


So what you are telling me, is that I should have not performed his swap, becuase he needed new spark plugs? This is a swap, some people choose to replace every gasket when the motor comes in, some choose to skimp and replace nothing and run it as is. I do what the customer wishes. Its not like it was a secret. He asked if the plugs were replaced, and I told him no. Why? Becuase he didn't pay for them, and he didn't ask for it to be done.

Now do I do that on the full swaps that I provide? Yes, but he provided every part, he searched for the deals, etc. If he wanted them, I would have had 4 spark plugs in my pile of parts to install. Don't you think?


Quote:
Mess of direct battery power wires/exposed wire zip tied to fuel line.

No wires were exposed when you left the shop. Also, that jumbled mess of wires are yours.
Are you insinuating that he fucked up his own wiring to make you look bad?

Not really. He could have accidentally pulled the wiring around and the tape came back a little on the wiring. Who knows. It wasn't like that though, I assure you.


Quote:
No clamp on idle control valve....causes boost leak.

First legitimate issue.
Hardly.

Certainly.


Quote:
Oil pan had a 2 inch deep dent in it right next to the oil pickup....could have easily starved the motor of oil.

No it didn't. In fact, when the motor came in, I took pictures of everything and sent them to you. Maybe you bottomed out on the way home? There were no dents here. Perfectly flat.
His car didn't "bottom out". My car hasn't busted an oil pan and I drive through downtown on a regular basis and ride much lower than Jim. Dents don't just appear.

Dents do just appear actually, I don't even know how to respond to that. Secondly, just because YOU haven't, doesn't mean that it can't or doesn't happen. Maybe there was a rock in the road, maybe he hit a squirrel, who friggin knows man. I've never done a ton of things, doesn't mean that it doesn't, or can't happen.

Quote:
Massive F3 plug rats nest of wires...can***8217;t even close the F3 plug latch to ensure a proper connection.

Thats how the harness looks.. You cannot latch the latch normally. It clips down, but it doesn't latch all the way normally. I guess I could have taped those up for you..

My harness doesn't look like that, and my shit latches down fine.

I agree its messy. I should have taped it up more. But the latch doesn't really "latch" down like the word would mean..


Quote:
No blowoff valve. Ran out of gas to weld it, I had to leave.

Yep. You decided last minute to go with a FMIC. You also brought the flange hours before you wanted to leave. I happened to look at the tank gauge before I started and noticed it low. I didn't want to run out halfway through and leave you stuck here when I knew you needed to leave. I could have installed it. Or it could have happened to leave you stranded. I decided to let you know of the situation, and said you could come to get it welded up when you return. NO CHARGE.

I think the last minute change was a forced one, something about a side mount comes to mind.

It was not forced. He could have waited 2 days and had the SMIC like was planned. I apologized over and over about it not being here. But my hands are tied. I had 2 sent here. One finally showed up. What else can I do?


Quote:
Turbo timer wired incorrectly and didn***8217;t function, No constant power source, no line to e-brake for safety/theft prevention.

Your harness you provided was incorrect. The last minute I wired everything. And there is a power source.. Or it wouldn't come on. I did tell you it didn't work properly, but I didn't get a chance to troubleshoot. Now did I.

Really? Harness looked perfect to me when I brought it to you guys.

Thats great. It was not the correct one. It might look great, but it didn't plug in. Get it?

Coupler inside of coupler (not reducer) on hotside end tank.

I know. I did it. Like I said, there were none here, and sorry, I don't put on "Spectre" couplers.

Quote:
Yep, once again, you decided last minute to have the FMIC. I didn't have the correct reducer in stock. They provide products exactly like that, with a reducer section inside. I'm sure you've seen them. Did the coupler blow? It looks intact to me. I did what I could to get you on the road that day.

You guys are maybe 10 minutes from 3 different auto parts stores, were they all out of reducers? Whether the coupler blew up or not, that is NOT how a shop should be putting people's cars together.

Barnette had none in stock, and the place we normally get them from close at 5. This was after that, and we needed it done.

The coupler inside another is common. That is how alot of reducers are made. In fact if I would have gone to the "10 minute away" parts stores, this is what he would have.

http://www.powerflowracing.com/images/parts/8771.jpg




Quote:
Crooked FMIC mounting, sits way too low.

Its as high as possibe. Its nearly touching the headlight brackets. Take a picture of where its mounted. You want me to put it in front of the headlight? Also, again. I told, AND showed you this. You said "Well this thing already hates speedbumps, no biggie". Or something like that.

If that really is my old FMIC core then I know you can mount it higher, it just needs some custom brackets made. Like I had planned on doing, until I needed my car back and everything had to be rushed.

It is indeed. I did make custom brackets. How do you think the FMIC is bolted up?


Quote:
Fog lights jammed into bumper/not bolted in.

We didn't take the Fog Lights out...

Then how did they end up in that position? They weren't that way when they went into the shop.

There is a FMIC behind it. Of course they touch it. Maybe the FMIC makes them poke out a little.

Thats all I feel like commenting on. Tyler, you're a nice guy and all but I feel like you haven't fully made the change from backyard swaps to a legitimate business.

I feel like I have. You have shown right here in these last couple comments that you really have no clue of the situation, like the turbo timer harness. Or the parts that are available to a average consumer, like the reducer. So I would appreciate if you stay out of the converstaion, as you are only making it more confusion for a person to read and see what the heck is going on.

Thanks.

[B]Tyler

[Echonova]

So mongol pup specifically asked for the responses to be kept, and specifically went out of his way to make sure this thread wouldn't get censored, and the mods STILL deleted shit.

what the fuck is wrong with you people?Not taking sides, Tyler shouldn't have to answer questions about the car asked by someone other than the owner. Regardless.

Otherwise this thread would be 26 pages long with the extra drama/people chosing sides.

Edit: Too late..

[AFSil80]

The only thing I noticed, and some people may place this under 'attention to detail', but I feel it's critical: The vacuum hoses running to the electronic boost controller and the t-fitting that was for the BOV line were not ziptied. He told me that you made sure he was aware of it (which he was) but why send him packing like that?

If one line blows off, there's a potential for overboost which could destroy the turbo, or in the case of his advanced timing, blow the motor.

He got to my house, and I took care of that on the spot. I didn't go over the swap, and I told him I wasn't gonna nitpick. It's a 4 minute fix, but not doing it left a potential for engine damage.

I'm not trying to jump in the middle of this thread, I'm just saying that having to do that and get his intercooler piping back in place after it blew off just driving down the road was kind of annoying.

[MongolPup]

The only thing I noticed, and some people may place this under 'attention to detail', but I feel it's critical: The vacuum hoses running to the electronic boost controller and the t-fitting that was for the BOV line were not ziptied. He told me that you made sure he was aware of it (which he was) but why send him packing like that?

If one line blows off, there's a potential for overboost which could destroy the turbo, or in the case of his advanced timing, blow the motor.

He got to my house, and I took care of that on the spot. I didn't go over the swap, and I told him I wasn't gonna nitpick. It's a 4 minute fix, but not doing it left a potential for engine damage.

I'm not trying to jump in the middle of this thread, I'm just saying that having to do that and get his intercooler piping back in place after it blew off just driving down the road was kind of annoying.

Incorrect. While at TopSpeed I was told it should be ziptied. Tyler didn't say that. Thank god for the Subaru guys.

[Stridentzephon]

Ok i dont want to start anything between anyone of the two but i would have to side with Tyler. Tho i havent left a respond on my swap because i jus started driving my car which has had the swap done for 3 mnths now that Tyler did, for only 2 weeks so far. At 1st i was kinda dissappointed in the price i paid for the swap to get done and the time was a little longer then expected. At the same time i did call Tiger and Mainstream and there time frames where longer then Tyler's and more then Tyler quoted me. When my car was in the shop i was there day by day, checkin up on ever detail and asking questions about the swap. I was on a buget at the same time BUT as all people know when you do a swap YOU must be prepared for ANY extra ezpensives because its not a new item you are getting. Also you must know what to look for before you take your car from a shop. Yes i did want to get my car out of the shop cause of the rising expensives but at the same time i knew more stuff on my car needed to be done which is why it stayed in my garage. I do my own work on my car and would advise you to learn more about what is expected when you get a swap. One of my friends not once, but twice has gone to a shop mentioned on this site and others and they are known, and has blown 2 motors in the time frame of a mnth each time, 2 different cars. It may seem like you have gone thur hell and hot water but as others said there is always worst. For Tyler to do it for you on a buget is more then reasonable, same as he did for me. But be advised Buget means you have to do some leg work and you will have to correct alot of stuff the is rushed. As of today with the exception of 2 issuses on my car, none of them related to Tyler, i love my car and would take it to him again if i needed anything done to it.

[MongolPup]

Reported. I WAS ON A BUDGET. I DID NOT GO IN THERE AND SAY THAT I ONLY HAD $15 IN QUARTERS. TECHNICALLY EVERYONE IS ON A BUDGET!

[hellfire]

And here we go again.. Me in red. To keep the trend.


I don’t have time to answer everything right off the bat, I’ll get to what I can. Bear with me please. Tyler is in bold.

I'm not convinced thats how it left my shop. Your car ran perfectly when it left.

Did I pull over to the side of the road and change it?

It ran fine in Warner Robins and in Statesboro. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t about to let loose. We don’t know how it made it here, but it did,

About to let what loose?!

I told you and showed you the plug..

You seem to miss the point. On the things you told me, I mentioned that. But the fact is they were still wrong at that moment in time. You. Did. Them. Wrong. And couldn’t fix them.

Who said I couldn't fix them? I certainly could. I showed you said things, you said alright, no biggie. Or Ok, I'm planning on doing so and so as well.

I left the stock fan plug on purpose. You mentioned wanting to have everything to be able to put it back to stock, or something along those lines. So I only cut on wire on there, and left that incase you ever wanted to use stock fans again.

I don’t remember saying that, and I have a pretty good memory. I was going for sleeper with the SMIC and exhaust, but that went out the window. And why use small gauge wire to power both fans off one harness wire?

The wire size is fine. The size is normal.. The fans aren't being powered off the harness wire by the way. Why don't you pop open the fuse box and take a look at the relay in there. Oh what, you didn't notice that? No, becuase I don't think anyone else installs them that way, and I did it just for you becuase I knew you wanted a super clean install. Your welcome, and your fans are powered from the battery, through a relay. Now you know how it works.

Huh? When you swap a motor, it has nothing to do with bleeding the clutch.. Never was that discussed, never was that implied. Or charged. I have no idea why you would think that.

Didn’t say motor swap. Said clutch install. You installed a clutch for me.

Seriously? Same question? Clutch, is in the transmission. You unbolt the slave cylinder from said transmission. Pull trans, replace clutch, replace trans, replace slave cylinder. Viola! (sp) Clutch is still bled, with your original clutch fluid.

I never claimed to have swapped the plugs for you. Did you see it on the invoice? Nope. You were on an UBER strict budget. Those spark plugs were fine, as the motor ran, and obviously got you 300miles home. That is something you can do on your own, later. When you got the money.

Everyone is playing on my budget. You never said “plugs are this much, will you pay”.
You didn’t even offer. You can’t play that off on my money. And when you said $400 for the FMIC and $180 for the relocate kit and install, didn’t I cough it up? Like I did for the thermostat install? Come on man.

Then if you had that extra $600, why did you mention to me that.. "Are we over budget at all? If so, we are in serious trouble" Did that happen or not?

No wires were exposed when you left the shop. Also, that jumbled mess of wires are yours. I told you I was going to relocate it, and you said don't worry, your going to pull out the wires later.

The red power wire was mine, and I pulled it out. What other wires could possibly be mine? Jumbled mess with the ECU and under the hood is mine? How?

Not sure what is a jumbled mess under the hood. The windsheild wiper relay had no bolt hole, but it along with all the AC wiring I left, would have been put up once I wired up the A/C stuff for you. Which you said you were going to come back to have done once you had the time/money. The HKS Octopus thing, thats yours. Its a jumbled mess.

I already said the wiring from the ECU could have been cleaner. But really, its under a plastic panel.

First legitimate issue. My apologies, I must have overlooked it. Once again, thats why I nicely asked you not to show up until its done. As when you look over my shoulder, and ask questions the whole day, its distracting and I can't concentrate.

YOU NEVER SAID THAT. EVER. You never said please don’t come. Give me a bible, I’ll swear on it. WOW. That is just….

I most certainly did. You said you were going to come down. I said that the car isn't close to being done yet, I will give you a call when it is so you can head down. Next thing I know, you show up.

I never claimed to have changed the filter. I told you the stock one was on there, and told you to do an oil change. Once again, we talked about this, you already knew this. Why complain now? Seems dumb.

We figured out that the S13 filter doesn’t work on the S14. Why couldn’t you have figured that out. Did you change the oil or not? Because you charged me for it.

I knew that. I didn't have one in stock.

Well lets see, I pulled the oil pan for you, which required all the oil to be drained. Yes I changed the oil. You know this. Is the oil black, or clear?

No it didn't. In fact, when the motor came in, I took pictures of everything and sent them to you. Maybe you bottomed out on the way home? There were no dents here. Perfectly flat.

I must have crawled under the car and beat the hell out of it while draining the rad fluid and advancing my timing.

So what you are saying is there is no possible way you could have hit something on the 300 mile voyage? How do oil pans get dented in the first place? Everyone just goes around beating it with a hammer? The oil pan could have easily been solved by saying

"Hey Tyler, I noticed my oil pan is a little beat up, you have another one?"

I have tons, I would have offered you one with no problem. Hardly an issue, till now.

Yep. You decided last minute to go with a FMIC. You also brought the flange hours before you wanted to leave. I happened to look at the tank gauge before I started and noticed it low. I didn't want to run out halfway through and leave you stuck here when I knew you needed to leave. I could have installed it. Or it could have happened to leave you stranded. I decided to let you know of the situation, and said you could come to get it welded up when you return. NO CHARGE.

Do you need gas to weld aluminum? I never said you didn’t tell me. Read that. I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

Yes, you need gas to weld anything TIG. Or MIG. Flux is the only welding without gas, or Arc maybe. Flux can only weld Steel.

Your harness you provided was incorrect. The last minute I wired everything. And there is a power source.. Or it wouldn't come on. I did tell you it didn't work properly, but I didn't get a chance to troubleshoot. Now did I.

No, you said “huh. I think this is one of the ones you have to drive around more for it to turn on”.

I did say sometimes there is a setting where the TT changes the amount of cool down time based on the amount the car is driven. But I didn't get a chance to even mess with yours. I was too rushed to get your stuff done for you. Even then we didn't leave till what, 9ish?

Yep, once again, you decided last minute to have the FMIC. I didn't have the correct reducer in stock. They provide products exactly like that, with a reducer section inside. I'm sure you've seen them. Did the coupler blow? It looks intact to me. I did what I could to get you on the road that day.

Yes, a coupler did blow off in Warner Robins. Thanks for asking. I posted in another thread that if you had said “This car isn’t safe to drive” I wouldn’t have driven it away.

Was it the one that I did the double coupler?

Technically works, but is shoddy:
Random t-line with bolt in it that runs to boost controller.

They are small caps. They only go on that far. Go try and put it farther, its a tight little bugger. Its not going anywhere.

I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

Not halfway on.. The clamp is on the barb, and there is extra line to spare. Its fine.. Just becuase its not 1/2in forward doesn't mean its wrong.

I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

I followed YOUR wiring. The power wire is also sheilded.. I run every relocation kit like that, and have NEVER had a problem. NEVER.

My non functioning amp wiring? And maybe I did it wrong. Doesn’t mean you should. You know better than that.

Who cares if it is functioning? Also, its not wrong. Its fine. Once again, never have I ever had an issue with an ECU being effected by a battery cable. If the cable is emmitting enough electricity through the wrap to harm anything, then it would ground and spark on the entire car.

Are you talking of the black and white wires? They are tapped in for an SAFC or something like that. Came on the harness like that. I could have clipped them for you.

I mean the mess of looped wires up in the footwell. There are numerous pictures of them.

Your really complaining about this!? I told you about this, and you told me you were happy about this so you wouldn't have to worry about a speed limiter. You were HAPPY about this. Let me repeat. And you knew right when the motor got here about that. I told you.

I took your word on it working fine, but I am hearing otherwise. And they have speed limiters.

Its a hit or miss. Some cars are a little iffy with them, some have no issue. Yours is fine. If there was a mechanical issue, you would know. Did you have any issue with the motor on your 300 mile trip? Did your turbo fail, or blow a head gasket, ECU ground out or fail, fuel line pop off?

Ok...


So you didn’t order me an S14 SR motorset? It’s not a set if everything is pieced together.

They are the same transmissions. I actually told you that the motor came seperate from the trans. I don't know if they are a numbers matching pair. They were next to eachother on the pallet though, and they obviously got you home. Its the same thing.

You watched me fill, and bleed the entire coolant system. You wanted water back in there after I installed the Thermostat, at the very last second. You said you were going to pickup some Water Wetter. There were no bubbles, or lack of coolant. Even the overflow was filled the correct level.

I have picked up some. And when I opened the cap, the water was down to the first fin. So did you do something wrong elsewhere or did I suck the fluid out with a straw?

Your attitude is what made me go from willing to help with your issues to pissed. No, I don't think you drank it, unless you became overly parched in the middle of your drive. But, we let the car run, and the fluid was full. Maybe your radiator cap is faulty and didn't suck any water back in. Or maybe fluid flowed somewhere else in the motor once you started driving and its a bit low. Sorry, I didn't have time, or the chance to drive the cars around like normal to see any issues.

Its as high as possibe. Its nearly touching the headlight brackets. Take a picture of where its mounted. You want me to put it in front of the headlight? Also, again. I told, AND showed you this. You said "Well this thing already hates speedbumps, no biggie". Or something like that.

Any lowered car hates speedbumps, that doesn’t mean the IC isn’t too low.

Please, take a picture. I want to see where you would mount it.

We didn't take the Fog Lights out...

How is then that they are both completely unbolted? Had I been driving them around like that, holding them on the car with sheer willpower? They fit in there perfectly when I dropped it off.

I don't know, did you hold them on with that same willpower on your drive back? Obviously, there are in there now, and they were in there before, so what are you talking about?

Thats your wiring?! The only thing that I see is the vacuum line for the Boost Controller. Which, again you stated that you were putting the new guage pod in there, and pulling everything out. So I didn't cut it and put it up higher like normal so you could do all that easy. You specifically even said "I don't care, just throw it all in there, it can look like ass I am going to pull it all out shortly" Right?!

I said put it in there, not make it possible for me to rip it out with my feet while driving.

This is how I know you have no leg to stand on. You are commenting on stuff like that. Focus on REAL issues. Don’t nitpick the small things that could be logically explained, like how we had to take some stuff apart to find the problems. Obviously I didn’t leave there with the ECU on my rug. But it didn’t have a bracket. Deal with the big things. I don’t need to tell you that posts like this don’t help you.

The bracket swaps over from your USDM ECU. You TOOK IT. What are you complaining about? And no, its not obvious that I didn't leave it on the rug, that what it looks like, when you took the picture. And thats what anyone else would think.

You came here, and picked up your stock ECU, and your other stock parts. That IS the bracket that I needed to put the ECU on the wall. You left it at home. Silvia ECU's mount on the other side. Thus, it doesn't work. So.. You took the bracket home, I didn't have it. I had the JDM one, but that does no good. You said "Dang-it! I left that at home. I almost sold it to the guy with my ECU, I barely remembered to pull it off" You told us to just put it in, and you would put the bracket in.

As long as you are admitting customers need to provide their own parts.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you don't know, so I'll teach you. The Silvia's are RHD. The ECU, mounts on the USDM drivers side. Obviously, the bracket is different. So.. The USDM bracket must be used in order to fasten the ECU to the car.

Just like you use the USDM F3 plug, in order to do the wiring. So did I steal that plug from you, and make you provide your own? No, its just swapped over from the parts that were already in the car.

I didn't get back under your car to check the lights. And I think you are confusing two things. Your HEADLIGHT bulb, is the one I mentioned might be out. And obviously it was, because we swapped plugs, and it still didn't work. I don't even remember saying anything about a fog light bulb. Nor did I strip the wires, or whatever you are possibly saying. If the wiring is messed up.. Ok? Your car is lowered, wires can scrape, who knows. How is that my fault?

You looked at the fog light. You got on the ground to look at it. I pointed out that it didn’t work. You said it was the bulb.

No, I checked to see if it wasn't plugged in. Because you said it wasn't working. It was plugged in, because we plugged it back in. I didn't strip your fog light harness. I don't even know how I would do that.

Yes there are. There aren't on 2 wires I think. It wasn't meant to be left like that, just until I got more terminals. You took the car though, and I forgot, honestly.

Thank you for admitting that.

I admit my faults, I have no problem admitting to something I have done wrong. These issues, mostly though, are simple things that we could have solved via one phone call, or really not even issues at all. Just confusion.

Huh?

A ring clamp that wasn’t trimmed cut someone while we were fixing the car.

A ring clamp that isn't trimmed? WHAT?!

Because.. You don't need it. Sometimes they get stuck and cause you to over heat. Why leave something on when it serves no purpose. Just line the upper chain guide on KA's.

I need to double check technical info before I answer this. I want to get it perfectly right. Not avoiding it.

Same belts/fuel filter.

You weren't charged, nor did you ask for it. Those are not part of a budget swap. Belts are something a customer can handle on their own, if they don't have the budget for us to install them. Same with fuel filter.

Also, that picture of your downpipe and tranny mount. You provided the parts. Look how far that gap is. Its 2in at least. It doesn't fit. Your parts. Don't fit. What do you want me to do? How is that my shops fault?

Plus, after everything was said and done, Carina asked you to look over everything, if you had any questions, or things you saw that you didn't like. You said nope, just that you wanted me to take you on a test drive before you paid.

My apologies. I should have had someone else at the shop with me. I trusted you since I didn’t know what stuff like the timing should look like.

I think that most of these things are VERY petty, and looks like you are trying to come up with dumb things to post. I don't really see why.

The last list was the nitpicky list. I said that.

Weird? What you think I'm trying to buy a motor from Sammy? LoL..

I called Sammy, just to ask if he had a Sidemount for you. I didn't ask, or inquire about any motors. There is a huge communication gap there, and maybe he misunderstood.

I also called NAD, Jarco, RIP Garage, and others, to try and hunt one down for you.

Yes, my motors come on pallets, why do you think I have a stack of pallets outside. And just like I told you, your sidemount arrived already. I wasn't lying, or making anything up. Our guy just forgot to put it on there, as most motorsets don't come with it. We had him get one just for you.

When did you say that? Was that in the PM where you accused me of libel? That other stuff wasn’t directly your fault. This is. That’s the way in which things have changed. And I didn’t think you were buying a motor from Sammy, but that is what he said to me on the phone (“Tyler called about a motor”).

Then why did you comment "Weird, eh" or whatever you said above. That implies something, or some other meaning then I just called him to ask for a SMIC. Obviously Sammy was confused.

There seems to be some underlying theme here of me setting out to ruin you by sucking fluid out of the radiator and beating the shit out of the oil pan while advancing the timing. People are watching your replies intently. Is this what you want to say? I don’t buy that.
Do they buy that? Do YOU buy that?

I am not lying. Nor do I have a reason to. I admitted to my faults, just like I do with every thread like this. Once again, you could have just called me. You had the time to call all around the world making this thread stay, but did I recieve I phone call? Nope.

You like everyone else on here, wanted to cause some drama, a little spark in their own thread. When it could have just been avoided, and called me. You think I don't strive to make you happy? I do. So in that phone call, I would have bent over backwords to make it right. Just like I do, every time. You didn't though, so now we are here.

Does it matter if they believe what I say? Yes. Do they? Who knows.

Chad was saying that when all those junkers have bad reviews it’s was like ehhhh but my car was different. There was no reason for it not to be done correctly. I wanted my car to be a secret, but for the greater good that can't be true.

Ok.

Tyler

[AFSil80]

Was it the one that I did the double coupler?

I don't know which one the double coupler is (again, I didn't nitpick), but it was the coupler connecting the intercooler to the cold pipe, and the pipe came out. The worm clamp was in the middle of the coupler when I went to put it back on.

[hellfire]

Incorrect. While at TopSpeed I was told it should be ziptied. Tyler didn't say that. Thank god for the Subaru guys.

Which should be ziptied? I'm sorry if I didn't go back over everything with a fine tooth comb.

But, how did you have time to make it up to Topspeed, if you were in SUCH a rush that I had to have it done on Friday? If I would have had that extra Saturday, I would have been able to drive the car, work out any kinks AKA blown couplers, etc. I drove the car up the street and back. I got on it a little, not much. I didn't know what coupler was stressed, etc. I had no time.

Tyler

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I don't know which one the double coupler is (again, I didn't nitpick), but it was the coupler connecting the intercooler to the cold pipe, and the pipe came out. The worm clamp was in the middle of the coupler when I went to put it back on.

Nope, the one that is apparently faulty is the hotside going into the IC.

Tyler

---------- Post added at 08:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:25 PM ----------

I would like to also say, that I added a whole damn line in my signature, saying "CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLL MMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".

Its not that hard.

Tyler

[AFSil80]

Nope, the one that is apparently faulty is the hotside going into the IC.

Tyler

(Just asking for clarity, because now I'm confused)

Faulty as in, coupler blows off, or it's the double coupler? Because the one I ended up putting back together was the coldside coming out of the IC.

[hellfire]

(Just asking for clarity, because now I'm confused)

Faulty as in, coupler blows off, or it's the double coupler? Because the one I ended up putting back together was the coldside coming out of the IC.

The one that is a complaint in this thread, is NOT the one that blew off. Couplers blow. Big deal. Maybe the worm clamp was faulty, maybe it wasn't tight enough, maybe a thousand things.

By "apparently faulty" I mean the one I was accused of being "rigged". AKA a doube slice of coupler, which you can buy at any Autozone, Advance, etc.

Tyler

[MongolPup]

Which should be ziptied? I'm sorry if I didn't go back over everything with a fine tooth comb.

But, how did you have time to make it up to Topspeed, if you were in SUCH a rush that I had to have it done on Friday? If I would have had that extra Saturday, I would have been able to drive the car, work out any kinks AKA blown couplers, etc. I drove the car up the street and back. I got on it a little, not much. I didn't know what coupler was stressed, etc. I had no time.

Tyler

Ask the people at TopSpeed and Peter. I left there and went to WR. You know why I went there? Because I didn't know what to look for and I didn't trust your work. Looks like I was justified.

Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7901.jpg
Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7906.jpg

Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7903.jpg

Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7905.jpg

Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7902.jpg

Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7877.jpg

Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7898.jpg

and

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7899.jpg

Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7904.jpg

Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7911.jpg

Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7886.jpg

[hellfire]

If you pay someone to do the work dont keep asking "is it done yet!". Sounds like the kidd in the back seat, like Tyler said he was forced to act fast cause stuff didnt come in ealier, And even while he was workin on it he was on his back.


I appreciate your support, and I am glad you are enjoying your car. Please just give me a call if you have any issues. Haha.

Some people see things different. You will never convice them to see it another way. They have their mind made up already, or there wouldn't be this thread.

Tyler

[MongolPup]

I appreciate your support, and I am glad you are enjoying your car. Please just give me a call if you have any issues. Haha.

Some people see things different. You will never convice them to see it another way. They have their mind made up already, or there wouldn't be this thread.

Tyler

Stridz or whatever, I just made a phone call on your behalf.

Tyler, we're getting close to being personal. Let's not cross that line.

[hellfire]

Wait.. Your serious with these pictures? If so, they help me more then show anything wrong. Lets see here..


Ask the people at TopSpeed and Peter. I left there and went to WR. You know why I went there? Because I didn't know what to look for and I didn't trust your work. Looks like I was justified.

Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7901.jpg
Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7906.jpg


First off, these pictures are of two different spots on the car, but hey, I'll give you credit. Close enough.

So, first off, we can tell you have the purple grounding HKS wiring, the other one does not.

Secondly, YOU MESSED WITH YOUR CAR BEFORE THIS PICTURE. Lets see, the bolt is out from the strut bar, and we had all those wires grouped together with zip ties.

Oh and also in that picture, I noticed your heater valve is STILL THERE. So I guess I left it there. Maybe you missed it?




Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7903.jpg

Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7905.jpg


You pulled out the Wiper Fluid motor and all that jazz. Not me. Your relay box was already broken, it doesn't have a bolt hole. Take a picture of that. So where should I put it?




Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7902.jpg

Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7877.jpg




Completely different picture spot. But hey, lets check out the guage of that wire used for the fans! Wait for it...




Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7898.jpg

and

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7899.jpg


Awwww snap. Same!


Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7904.jpg


Looks the same to me... Really, this is something to compain about? Should I make it twist a little less?


Right (not mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7911.jpg

Wrong (mine):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b338/MongolPup/IMG_7886.jpg

OH NO Where is his clip? How does that car run, he can't even ensure that it is properly cliped down.

I could have taped them up. I already said that. Lets keep beating that dead horse though. Maybe he'll reap you some reward.

Tyler




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Stridz or whatever, I just made a phone call on your behalf.

Tyler, we're getting close to being personal. Let's not cross that line.

How was that personal? I was talking Stephen first off. Secondly, I basically just said that everyone has their own opinion.

Was that rude?

Tyler

[MongolPup]

I’m keeping Tyler in red, that should make things a bit easier. Watch his replies. They are evasive. He doesn’t address my concerns. He doesn’t have the answers to my questions. What does that mean? It’s important to see what he refutes, but also what he DOESN’T refute or comment on. Please let me know if I left anything out.

About to let what loose?!

The motor. Let loose as in blow up.

Who said I couldn't fix them? I certainly could. I showed you said things, you said alright, no biggie. Or Ok, I'm planning on doing so and so as well.

You couldn’t fix them then. I can fix anything in the future. Next year I am going to cure AIDS.

The wire size is fine. The size is normal.. The fans aren't being powered off the harness wire by the way. Why don't you pop open the fuse box and take a look at the relay in there. Oh what, you didn't notice that? No, becuase I don't think anyone else installs them that way, and I did it just for you becuase I knew you wanted a super clean install. Your welcome, and your fans are powered from the battery, through a relay. Now you know how it works.

SUPER CLEAN?!?! Have you not looked at the pictures of the swap? It looks TERRIBLE compared to a real SR install. Thank you for botching my fans.

Seriously? Same question? Clutch, is in the transmission. You unbolt the slave cylinder from said transmission. Pull trans, replace clutch, replace trans, replace slave cylinder. Viola! (sp) Clutch is still bled, with your original clutch fluid.

A through shop doing a through install would have done that. I’ll call around tomorrow if you want.

Then if you had that extra $600, why did you mention to me that.. "Are we over budget at all? If so, we are in serious trouble" Did that happen or not?

I did. What does serious trouble mean again? You don’t know. P.S. when we did go over budget I didn’t complain about it. Thanks for avoiding the real question.

Not sure what is a jumbled mess under the hood. The windsheild wiper relay had no bolt hole, but it along with all the AC wiring I left, would have been put up once I wired up the A/C stuff for you. Which you said you were going to come back to have done once you had the time/money. The HKS Octopus thing, thats yours. Its a jumbled mess.

I already said the wiring from the ECU could have been cleaner. But really, its under a plastic panel.

The wiring under the hood is under a piece of metal. Really. People don’t see it. And I don’t remember saying ANYTHING about the HKS thing. It is HKS purple. You notice it.

I most certainly did. You said you were going to come down. I said that the car isn't close to being done yet, I will give you a call when it is so you can head down. Next thing I know, you show up.

Nope.

I knew that. I didn't have one in stock.

Well lets see, I pulled the oil pan for you, which required all the oil to be drained. Yes I changed the oil. You know this. Is the oil black, or clear?

Well thanks for telling me that they are different. Because I didn’t know until I had bought the wrong one.

So what you are saying is there is no possible way you could have hit something on the 300 mile voyage? How do oil pans get dented in the first place? Everyone just goes around beating it with a hammer? The oil pan could have easily been solved by saying

"Hey Tyler, I noticed my oil pan is a little beat up, you have another one?"

I have tons, I would have offered you one with no problem. Hardly an issue, till now.

And I’m sure you would have done that. Just like if I had asked for another ECU. I’m being sarcastic. I-16 is flat.

Yes, you need gas to weld anything TIG. Or MIG. Flux is the only welding without gas, or Arc maybe. Flux can only weld Steel.

I thought it was to prevent splashing.

I did say sometimes there is a setting where the TT changes the amount of cool down time based on the amount the car is driven. But I didn't get a chance to even mess with yours. I was too rushed to get your stuff done for you. Even then we didn't leave till what, 9ish?

We left at 4:40 in the morning. You still did it wrong. Admit it.

Was it the one that I did the double coupler?


No, it was another ebay coupler. I apologize for the confusion. I should have said that right off the bat. That’s my fault.

Who cares if it is functioning? Also, its not wrong. Its fine. Once again, never have I ever had an issue with an ECU being effected by a battery cable. If the cable is emmitting enough electricity through the wrap to harm anything, then it would ground and spark on the entire car.

Continue to do dangerous things anyway? Innocent until proven dangerous? You sound like the FDA.

Its a hit or miss. Some cars are a little iffy with them, some have no issue. Yours is fine. If there was a mechanical issue, you would know. Did you have any issue with the motor on your 300 mile trip? Did your turbo fail, or blow a head gasket, ECU ground out or fail, fuel line pop off?

There are many other things the ECU controls than those things. Who knows what tomorrow will hold.

They are the same transmissions. I actually told you that the motor came seperate from the trans. I don't know if they are a numbers matching pair. They were next to eachother on the pallet though, and they obviously got you home. Its the same thing.

Well let that be a lesson to everyone who orders one of your motor”sets”. They aren’t sets. God knows where you got it. Ontario? Montreal? There’s trade secrets, and there’s covering your ass.

Your attitude is what made me go from willing to help with your issues to pissed. No, I don't think you drank it, unless you became overly parched in the middle of your drive. But, we let the car run, and the fluid was full. Maybe your radiator cap is faulty and didn't suck any water back in. Or maybe fluid flowed somewhere else in the motor once you started driving and its a bit low. Sorry, I didn't have time, or the chance to drive the cars around like normal to see any issues.

Note to others: don’t stick up for yourself.

Please, take a picture. I want to see where you would mount it.

It’s dark now. Tomorrow.

I don't know, did you hold them on with that same willpower on your drive back? Obviously, there are in there now, and they were in there before, so what are you talking about?

They are wedged in by the front mount.

No, I checked to see if it wasn't plugged in. Because you said it wasn't working. It was plugged in, because we plugged it back in. I didn't strip your fog light harness. I don't even know how I would do that.

When you took the bumper off, when you were working on the car at any point. You checked to see if it was plugged in. A second ago you said you didn’t even look at it. What? If you looked at the harness, you would have seen that it was messed up.

I admit my faults, I have no problem admitting to something I have done wrong. These issues, mostly though, are simple things that we could have solved via one phone call, or really not even issues at all. Just confusion.

Confusion? I’m not confused, the pictures show the swap just fine.

A ring clamp that wasn’t trimmed cut someone while we were fixing the car.

A ring clamp that isn't trimmed? WHAT?!

I guess zipties aren’t meant to be trimmed either. Let stuff look like an 8 year old did it.

Then why did you comment "Weird, eh" or whatever you said above. That implies something, or some other meaning then I just called him to ask for a SMIC. Obviously Sammy was confused.


This line of question stops here, for Sammy’s sake. He isn’t involved with this and I don’t want to drag him in.

Does it matter if they believe what I say? Yes. Do they? Who knows.

Oh yeah, I want a spark in my thread as much as a want a junker in my driveway. What if my motor had blown up because of your incompetence? When I called you, how would that have gone. I know you don’t think half of (if any of this) is wrong, and if it is, it certainly isn’t your fault. Hate to tell you, but your bathroom doesn’t have a floral scent.

I used to defend you. I used to believe you. I fought hard for you. I said “wait until they see the car, they’ll give Tyler the respect he deserves”. Turns out they already are. None.

[Slip N Slide S14]

I have Jim's permission to post this so it should not be deleted.

I didn't want to get involved, but Jim doesn't really know how to explain the problems that are wrong with the car so he cant really argue for himself. Which is why he payed someone to do that swap for him in the first place.

First thing first, you CANNOT expect a customer to look over something they know nothing about and say OK. Thats why money was exchanged for professional services. Jim doesn't know what hes looking at, he should not BE THE ONE to have the responsibility to check everything and make sure its good to go. He is entrusting the business to have done a great job.

What I was told is that there was at least a week or two in between the time he was told the car is done minus the intercooler and when he picked it up, so there shouldn't be any argument with a time issue. The only time issue apparently was the intercooler. So, I guess you can chaulk up the shitty looking intercooler and random couplers to time, but NOTHING else. Even if the job was rushed which I don't think it was, there should be a CLEAR explanation or a strong stern speech saying you do not let cars leave the shop in such poor condition. One for legal reasons and two for the the other people seeing that quality of work.

Ok, I for one actualyl know what I'm talking about and I AM NOT HERE TO BASH ANYONE INCLUDING TYLER. I am posting for Jim for WHAT I personally saw and thought was wrong.

------30* base timing is uncalled for, its true. It was 15* advanced, the bolts were super freaking tight so there was NO chance that it expediently slipped. It was just set wrong or overlooked to begin with. Extremely dangerous either way.

------There was a definite dent int he oil pan, when i say DENT, I don't mean a rock hit it, I mean its your normal SR motorset that was shipped and had a dented pan, dent. The entire side of the pan was pushed in 2 inches or so. Luckily it wasn't directly under the pickup or the motor would be toast by now, but it was dented and dented in the direction of the pickup and WAS for sure cutting off a little bit of flow.

------The original oil filter.....I feel and I'm sure anyone thinking logically would also agree that it SHOULD be changed and you can feel safe to assume that if you paid someone to swap your car that they would change the filter. This is basically common sense I would think.

-----The spark plugs.....Same as the filter, this is just one of the many things I feel should be done when prepping a motor for install. Yes they rant he motor, but it misfired and the gap was outrageously large. Spark plugs should always be changed when doing a motor swap, they are about $1 a piece.

-----The battery cable.....Electricity is a flow of electrons from one point to another. When electrons flow they create magnetism as well. Magnetism and ECU's do not go well together. Any one in the stereo business or most people that know about large power wires will tell you to NEVER run them by the ECU. Its a common known fact. It doesn't really matter to say that the car ran fine for that day, it might not the next day, or a month later. If you paid someone to do a swap you are not looking to have to replace things a month later, it should be a permanent install.

-----MAF plug.....I know there is the possibility that there wasn't another option, but the fact that it made the car run weird is enough to explain that this is a real issue and that you don't want the car to leave the shop like that.

-----Clutch fluid......Again, when any shop swaps a clutch or motor, it should be implied that your clutch be bled. If you took your car to a transmission shop just to have the clutch changed they would bled your clutch. Its part f the clutch install itself. Not to mention I have never even seen clutch fluid that black.

-----F3 plug.......That is a rats nest of hell and back. I got in Jim's car on the passenger side, and there was a single wire layin on the floor that went to nowhere. I pulled of the ECU panel to find a mess of wires and two wires that were spliced with no E-tape that went to nowhere. I still don't know what they are for yet.

-----The F3 plug latch...The reason it wont latch is because there are 2-3 wires actually wrapped around it, they are tangled in the plug and are wired into the car. To properly latch the plug you will need to cut the wires and re-wire them so they are not tangled. This is just a aesthetic thing mainly, but its so messy that it deserves attention.

-----Turbo Timer....There were 3 wires not hooked up, one of them being the safety E-brake cut off. Then, the timer was never given constant power which is the large White.red wire off the ignition switch. The timer had 3 sources of ignition switched 12V which of course just cut off the timer when the car went off and never kept it running.

-----Vacuum cap, fuel line, wiring hanging down in the drivers foot well from the turbo timer harness, fog lights were definitely unbolted and jammed into place to fit the FMIC..........All of this is just nasty. Its of course not THAAAT important and can be fixed fast, but paying someone to do a swap shouldn't have things that look so ugly.

-----Drivers fog not working......I went down there to look at it, and the reason seems to be that both wires for the fog light have been cut open and shorted out. It is 1 cm off the plug so idk how it was missed. It looks exactly like taking the bumper on and off was what cut them open.

-----"ring clamp"...He means the 3 in hose clamp used on a 1 inch hose the massive extra length of clamp looks like hell. Just explaining what he meant.

-----There are a few grounds that have no terminals on them, they are just stripped wires that are pushed behind a bolt and tightened. This is not a permanent professional install.

-----Tranny senors not hooked up.......Yes, the plugs dont actually plug in, but the car came in with working sensors so it should leave with working sensors. No reverse lights is not just ghetto but a possible safety issue. There are about 100 ways they could have been hooked up, the simplest being to just cut off both Nissan plugs that didnt match and use regular old crimp connections to get the wires together. Just one of those things that is assumed in a professional swap.


I'm sure I didn't go over everything Jim listed, but the stuff I explained is 110% true and an unbiased opinion. I am not here to bash anyone but to see a resolution.


NO ONE SHOULD INSULT ME FOR THIS. I gave a true honest opinion of what I saw.

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Actually,

Travis car has 10G wire and I think Jim's is at least 16 or 18 gauge, the pics cant show the relative size well.

[MongolPup]

I just got called about something, I want to clear something up. NO TOPSPEED INC TECHNICIAN INSPECTED MY CAR. MY CAR WAS LOOKED AT BY THIRD PARTIES.

[hellfire]

I'm through with this thread. The comments now made by Jim are no longer those regarding the swap, but what I feel like is taking personal stabs.

Once again, I will repeat.. All you had to do was call. You didn't even respond to half of what I said correctly.

You pushed off the fact that you accused me of taking off the heater switch, when its in a picture.

You liked the car when you saw it done. You said it looked good. Now it looks like shit? Give me a break.

The OIL PAN however, I know 100%, was not dented. I took it off. I would have fixed any dents. But there were none. I also told Jim that Chad could come look at the motor. Now why would I do that if there was a huge dent in there. I wouldn't.

Have a nice day, and call me if you have any issues.

Tyler

[MongolPup]

I'm through with this thread. The comments now made by Jim are no longer those regarding the swap, but what I feel like is taking personal stabs.

Once again, I will repeat.. All you had to do was call. You didn't even respond to half of what I said correctly.

You pushed off the fact that you accused me of taking off the heater switch, when its in a picture.

You liked the car when you saw it done. You said it looked good. Now it looks like shit? Give me a break.

The OIL PAN however, I know 100%, was not dented. I took it off. I would have fixed any dents. But there were none. I also told Jim that Chad could come look at the motor. Now why would I do that if there was a huge dent in there. I wouldn't.

Have a nice day, and call me if you have any issues.

Tyler

The picture YOU took and sent me showed a dent.

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And read/comment on Chad's post as well.

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The heater valve.....Yes the plastic piece is there, but the arm that actuates it is broken off. The switch is there but the actual functional arm thingy is gone. There is no more connection for it.

[Slip N Slide S14]

OK, this is the Pic of Tyler holding the pan.

I know its not the best pic because the pan is full of oil, but you can still make out the impressions and stress of the pan being dented.

Far right smaller red circle...........You can easily see where the pickup has hit the pan, this means the pan WAS dented in at least that far at one time.

Left, Larger red circle...............This is the whole area that is pushed in\

Left, small blue circle................You can see the funny colored pan and on the extreme far left you can see that the pan is pushed in some. Especially on the edge of the pan, thats where you can see it more clearly.

Now, to better understand, compare the circles I posted with the previous picture of the dented pan off the car. It is the same dent.

[MongolPup]

Tyler has publicly stated that he is done with the situation. As such, I am locking the thread to prevent it from going to the dogs. Was there a resolution? No. Did I get my concerns addressed? No. Do I feel better about Tyler the business person? No. Very unfortunate. I appreciate everyone’s support, and I thank you for the PM’s of support. It means a lot to me.

In conclusion I believe this thread demonstrated two things. The first is that Tyler does poor work. The second is that Tyler doesn’t accept responsibly for his actions. As things stand, I will not patronize Killswitch Performance and I believe that my experience should be noted by others as well. When a person blames mistakes in an install on you, that does not bode well for the shop or the installer. Thank you for reading, and have a good night.

[MongolPup]

Just an update to Killswitch customers:

If your "complete" engine doesn't come with the stock coolant lines to the turbo, you'll have to buy them yourself because in Killswitch's eyes it seems coolant lines are optional and you don't need them....not to mention apparently rare. What the hell does Garrett know about turbochargers anyway?!

May I suggest the kit from FRSport. That's what I'm buying. Maybe my THIRD turbo won't blow up.

[s7_]

S15 turbo

[MongolPup]

S15 turbo

What about it?

[Iam99x]

Just an update to Killswitch customers:

If your "complete" engine doesn't come with the stock coolant lines to the turbo, you'll have to buy them yourself because in Killswitch's eyes it seems coolant lines are optional and you don't need them....not to mention apparently rare. What the hell does Garrett know about turbochargers anyway?!

May I suggest the kit from FRSport. That's what I'm buying. Maybe my THIRD turbo won't blow up.

I'm not trying to get on anyone's bad side, but I bought all I needed for my watercooling needs for my Garrett T25 at Home Depot and Auto Zone. Rubber water hoses, fittings for the turbo, and T-fittings for the hoses. Maybe $15. I hope this helps future watercooled setups.

[s7_]

if you get a brand new turbo..get the s15OEM one..?

[MongolPup]

I'm not trying to get on anyone's bad side, but I bought all I needed for my watercooling needs for my Garrett T25 at Home Depot and Auto Zone. Rubber water hoses, fittings for the turbo, and T-fittings for the hoses. Maybe $15. I hope this helps future watercooled setups.

Sorry, I was being sarcastic. You can order them at any Nissan dealership that has a phone to call Motorsports. In my experience, that is all of them.

14498-69f20 (outlet) list price is $30.34.
14499-69f21 (inlet) list price is $35.42.

[Iam99x]

Sorry, I was being sarcastic. You can order them at any Nissan dealership.

14498-69f20 (outlet) list price is $30.34.
14499-69f21 (inlet) list price is $35.42.

Yeah I got that, but I was stating how easy and cheap they are to make yourself. :)

Good luck with your car, sir.

[MongolPup]

Yeah I got that, but I was stating how easy and cheap they are to make yourself. :)

Good luck with your car, sir.

Much appreciated.

[MongolPup]

Sorry it took so long. Here are the lines that came on my motor.

[hellfire]

I don't know why you feel you need to continue to update the thread.

But its alright. I told you, months ago, I would pay for the new lines for you. You never got back to me, I think you were going to get the part numbers or something.

I didn't know that they were crimped and not used when I ordered the motor. I didn't notice it when I inspected it. They were crimped behind the turbo, I saw that there WERE lines there, but didn't notice that they weren't connected. Would have never imagined.

Then when your 1st turbo blew, and I replaced it for free, I told you about the lines. I told you that I would pay for them, but I think you needed your car back asap, so you didn't have time to order them, and wait. Or something along those lines.

So please, I have no problem if you tell a story. But just tell the whole one. This is dumb. I will STILL pay for the lines. Even after everything you are trying to do in order to ruin my reputation. Bring a receipt to the shop, or scan it and I will paypal you the money.

Best of luck with the car, hope you are enjoying it.

Tyler

[MongolPup]

But its alright. I told you, months ago, I would pay for the new lines for you. You never got back to me, I think you were going to get the part numbers or something.

You told me you were looking. I was waiting on YOU. YOU didn't get back to ME.



Had any luck on those coolant lines?

Not yet. Its hard to find the S14 ones. I'll let you know as soon as I do.

Tyler

[Elizabeth Reed]

and the plot thickens

[MongolPup]

And check the KS email account. Oh wait. It's full.

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I don't know why you feel you need to continue to update the thread.

But its alright. I told you, months ago, I would pay for the new lines for you. You never got back to me, I think you were going to get the part numbers or something.

I didn't know that they were crimped and not used when I ordered the motor. I didn't notice it when I inspected it. They were crimped behind the turbo, I saw that there WERE lines there, but didn't notice that they weren't connected. Would have never imagined.

Then when your 1st turbo blew, and I replaced it for free, I told you about the lines. I told you that I would pay for them, but I think you needed your car back asap, so you didn't have time to order them, and wait. Or something along those lines.

So please, I have no problem if you tell a story. But just tell the whole one. This is dumb. I will STILL pay for the lines. Even after everything you are trying to do in order to ruin my reputation. Bring a receipt to the shop, or scan it and I will paypal you the money.

Best of luck with the car, hope you are enjoying it.

Tyler

I update it because the story isn't over. You act like I'm posting "my passenger side seat doesn't recline all the way, it's Tyler's fault!".

The one off the water neck is obvious. And you admitted that you didn't even bother taking off the heat shield when you got the motor. And don't you dare deny that like you did the coolant lines. Either way I have proof.

If you feel your reputation is being ruined, don't blame me. I didn't make you do this stuff.

[gymratt]

wow...imo it was a messy swap. When i pay for something like that i want wires run correctly, coolent lines hooked up, full tune up and so on. But, i would have told the shop this, and i would have taken the car to the shop knowing that it will take time to do right. I would have a car i could get to and from work instead of waiting on the shop. When doing a swap thngs will come up and take more time to be fixed. I expect a swap to take weeks, and have things done like having the bay cleaned, the shop drive the car and work out the kinks, tuned correctly and so on. I prefer to have things done right, and to do so time is essential. Just look at the rb26 350z swap in member journals. He is taking his time having things done right. He expected this long for the swap done correctly, not pressuring it to be done yesterday. This is the way a customer should approach a swap, knowing that it takes time and money to have a swap done correctly. I see both parties at some fault, neither can take full blame.

[MongolPup]

Still waiting on Tyler.

[down_shift]

I needed it done quickly but well and I had a budget.

how does this not make sense. like they say "time, quality, and price" pick any two. looks like you picked yours.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

zombie thread it just wont die

[maxed1]

Better be careful he will have you locked up, Its just a phone call

[carheadman]

how does this not make sense. like they say "time, quality, and price" pick any two. looks like you picked yours.
sounds about right, but hey idk, i did notice the intercooler, but im running a ka-t setup with a big front mount, and it really is true, if tyler went any higher it would be infront of your headlights. i have mine right up to the head lights, and even with my lip on the fornt bumper the two bottom bolts for the intercooler just barely stick out/are even with the lip. w/o lip like you, mine would look hideous too

[MongolPup]

zombie thread it just wont die

It'll be closed again when loose ends are tied up, working on that now. Thank you for your patience.

[350zftw]

Oh my god. Alright, here we go...

FUBAR:
Cam angle sensor advanced; FULLY ADVANCED TIMING.....15+ degrees advanced, a total of 30+ of base timing.Verified with timing gun.

I'm not convinced thats how it left my shop. Your car ran perfectly when it left.

MAF plug broken that jiggles and causes the car to shudder. Said he didn’t have one, but I could get one later.

I told you and showed you the plug..

Fan wiring too thin/overloaded/looks like shit....cut wires hanging out, just looks bad.

I left the stock fan plug on purpose. You mentioned wanting to have everything to be able to put it back to stock, or something along those lines. So I only cut on wire on there, and left that incase you ever wanted to use stock fans again.

Old black opaque clutch fluid, should have been bled and changed as with any clutch swap

Huh? When you swap a motor, it has nothing to do with bleeding the clutch.. Never was that discussed, never was that implied. Or charged. I have no idea why you would think that.

Spark plugs were STILL the original ones form Japland and had a TWICE too large gap.

I never claimed to have swapped the plugs for you. Did you see it on the invoice? Nope. You were on an UBER strict budget. Those spark plugs were fine, as the motor ran, and obviously got you 300miles home. That is something you can do on your own, later. When you got the money.

Mess of direct battery power wires/exposed wire zip tied to fuel line.

No wires were exposed when you left the shop. Also, that jumbled mess of wires are yours. I told you I was going to relocate it, and you said don't worry, your going to pull out the wires later.

No clamp on idle control valve....causes boost leak.

First legitimate issue. My apologies, I must have overlooked it. Once again, thats why I nicely asked you not to show up until its done. As when you look over my shoulder, and ask questions the whole day, its distracting and I can't concentrate.

Original JDM oil filter with major dent in it.....This is the ORIGINAL filter that was on the motor in Japan, was the oil changed? Shop owner should KNOW the S14 SR has a different filter.

I never claimed to have changed the filter. I told you the stock one was on there, and told you to do an oil change. Once again, we talked about this, you already knew this. Why complain now? Seems dumb.

Oil pan had a 2 inch deep dent in it right next to the oil pickup....could have easily starved the motor of oil.

No it didn't. In fact, when the motor came in, I took pictures of everything and sent them to you. Maybe you bottomed out on the way home? There were no dents here. Perfectly flat.

Massive F3 plug rats nest of wires...can’t even close the F3 plug latch to ensure a proper connection.

Thats how the harness looks.. You cannot latch the latch normally. It clips down, but it doesn't latch all the way normally. I guess I could have taped those up for you..

No blowoff valve. Ran out of gas to weld it, I had to leave.

Yep. You decided last minute to go with a FMIC. You also brought the flange hours before you wanted to leave. I happened to look at the tank gauge before I started and noticed it low. I didn't want to run out halfway through and leave you stuck here when I knew you needed to leave. I could have installed it. Or it could have happened to leave you stranded. I decided to let you know of the situation, and said you could come to get it welded up when you return. NO CHARGE.

Turbo timer wired incorrectly and didn’t function, No constant power source, no line to e-brake for safety/theft prevention.

Your harness you provided was incorrect. The last minute I wired everything. And there is a power source.. Or it wouldn't come on. I did tell you it didn't work properly, but I didn't get a chance to troubleshoot. Now did I.

Coupler inside of coupler (not reducer) on hotside end tank.

Yep, once again, you decided last minute to have the FMIC. I didn't have the correct reducer in stock. They provide products exactly like that, with a reducer section inside. I'm sure you've seen them. Did the coupler blow? It looks intact to me. I did what I could to get you on the road that day.

Technically works, but is shoddy:
Random t-line with bolt in it that runs to boost controller.

Thats for the BOV.. Not random. Look at its placement. C'mon. I showed you this.

Vacuum cap on throttle body halfway on.

They are small caps. They only go on that far. Go try and put it farther, its a tight little bugger. Its not going anywhere.

Fuel line halfway on barb.

Not halfway on.. The clamp is on the barb, and there is extra line to spare. Its fine.. Just becuase its not 1/2in forward doesn't mean its wrong.

Power wire runs past/touches ECU...Magnetism and computers don’t play nice with each other.

I followed YOUR wiring. The power wire is also sheilded.. I run every relocation kit like that, and have NEVER had a problem. NEVER.

Random twisted and looped wires that go no where coming out of ECU.

Are you talking of the black and white wires? They are tapped in for an SAFC or something like that. Came on the harness like that. I could have clipped them for you..

Auto ECU.

Your really complaining about this!? I told you about this, and you told me you were happy about this so you wouldn't have to worry about a speed limiter. You were HAPPY about this. Let me repeat. And you knew right when the motor got here about that. I told you.

S13 tranny.

Ok...

Low water/coolant level...was below the first row of the radiator.

You watched me fill, and bleed the entire coolant system. You wanted water back in there after I installed the Thermostat, at the very last second. You said you were going to pickup some Water Wetter. There were no bubbles, or lack of coolant. Even the overflow was filled the correct level.

Crooked FMIC mounting, sits way too low.

Its as high as possibe. Its nearly touching the headlight brackets. Take a picture of where its mounted. You want me to put it in front of the headlight? Also, again. I told, AND showed you this. You said "Well this thing already hates speedbumps, no biggie". Or something like that.

Fog lights jammed into bumper/not bolted in.

We didn't take the Fog Lights out...

Wiring hanging down in passenger and driver foot wells.

Thats your wiring?! The only thing that I see is the vacuum line for the Boost Controller. Which, again you stated that you were putting the new guage pod in there, and pulling everything out. So I didn't cut it and put it up higher like normal so you could do all that easy. You specifically even said "I don't care, just throw it all in there, it can look like ass I am going to pull it all out shortly" Right?!

No bracket on ECU. Yes I have one but still. I wasn’t provided one, it was after I found out they didn’t have one that I said I did.

You came here, and picked up your stock ECU, and your other stock parts. That IS the bracket that I needed to put the ECU on the wall. You left it at home. Silvia ECU's mount on the other side. Thus, it doesn't work. So.. You took the bracket home, I didn't have it. I had the JDM one, but that does no good. You said "Dang-it! I left that at home. I almost sold it to the guy with my ECU, I barely remembered to pull it off" You told us to just put it in, and you would put the bracket in.

Wiring is shredded on my driver’s side foglight. It was fine when I put the car into the shop. Went to pick it up and it didn’t work, he said maybe I didn’t plug it up, he gets under the car and said no it’s hooked up, bulb must be out. THE HARNESS IS OBVIOUSLY MESSED UP. If you are looking at it under the car you can see that it is.

I didn't get back under your car to check the lights. And I think you are confusing two things. Your HEADLIGHT bulb, is the one I mentioned might be out. And obviously it was, because we swapped plugs, and it still didn't work. I don't even remember saying anything about a fog light bulb. Nor did I strip the wires, or whatever you are possibly saying. If the wiring is messed up.. Ok? Your car is lowered, wires can scrape, who knows. How is that my fault?

Not necessarily professional:
No ring terminals on any ground.

Yes there are. There aren't on 2 wires I think. It wasn't meant to be left like that, just until I got more terminals. You took the car though, and I forgot, honestly.

Ring clamp not trimmed, cut Bailey Built technician.

Huh?

Entire hot pipe held to turbo by what looks like rad hose.

Its not radiator hose.. And what else is your hotpipe supposed to be held on by? Glue? What does that statement mean? Its an OEM nissan coupler. Just trimmed to fit your application.

Heater control valve missing. You don't need it, but why was it taken off?

Because.. You don't need it. Sometimes they get stuck and cause you to over heat. Why leave something on when it serves no purpose. Just line the upper chain guide on KA's.

Same belts/fuel filter.

You weren't charged, nor did you ask for it. Those are not part of a budget swap. Belts are something a customer can handle on their own, if they don't have the budget for us to install them. Same with fuel filter.

Also, that picture of your downpipe and tranny mount. You provided the parts. Look how far that gap is. Its 2in at least. It doesn't fit. Your parts. Don't fit. What do you want me to do? How is that my shops fault?

Plus, after everything was said and done, Carina asked you to look over everything, if you had any questions, or things you saw that you didn't like. You said nope, just that you wanted me to take you on a test drive before you paid.

I think that most of these things are VERY petty, and looks like you are trying to come up with dumb things to post. I don't really see why.



Actually, all my connections are shrinkwrapped. You can notice them in the pictures. The only ones with tape are the ones that are under the steering column, because they are SPLICED, not just a connection of two wires. No way to shrinkwrap that.



Weird? What you think I'm trying to buy a motor from Sammy? LoL..

I called Sammy, just to ask if he had a Sidemount for you. I didn't ask, or inquire about any motors. There is a huge communication gap there, and maybe he misunderstood.

I also called NAD, Jarco, RIP Garage, and others, to try and hunt one down for you.

Yes, my motors come on pallets, why do you think I have a stack of pallets outside. And just like I told you, your sidemount arrived already. I wasn't lying, or making anything up. Our guy just forgot to put it on there, as most motorsets don't come with it. We had him get one just for you.

Tyler
Y in the hell would you not change the oil filer?

[FlatWoodsMonster]

1st mate-you cant kill it you just cant kill the damn thing!!!!!!!

Captain- Shoot it in the head boy, that will drop'em for good!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75VKedBBIn4

[Elizabeth Reed]

1st mate-you cant kill it you just cant kill the damn thing!!!!!!!

Captain- shoot it in the head boy, that will drop'em for good!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl438bqjbme


lol!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FlatWoodsMonster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGbPwV-lqXg&feature=related

[blakexcore]

Y in the hell would you not change the oil filer?


why in the hell would you bump an old ass thread.

[Devious Furlong]

You need to take them to court. For that shitty work.

[Iam99x]

Y in the hell would you not change the oil filer?

Good question.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

wont die

[J Squared]

Where do u put the radiator?

[FlatWoodsMonster]

Where do u put the radiator?

hhaha you need to stop man

[MongolPup]

Updates:

The hole he drilled for the cold pipe in the former battery tray wasn't big enough or in the right place, the pipe is neatly cut in two places. Boost leak FTW.

The O2 sensor wiring wasn't extended long enough, so the plug has now ripped itself out of the wiring.

At this point, I haven't driven my car in over a month and am still stuck at school despite getting out weeks ago.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

im reporting this thread

[down_shift]

why now?

[AFSil80]

Something tells me that I may be coming down to Statesboro and pounding beer and doing work. I'm gonna be bored, so I may be in touch, Jim.

[MongolPup]

You'll have to fight Chad for the big couch.

[AFSil80]

Hahaha, we'll see what happens.

BTW, I'm trying to get Cuppett to swing by and grab that wastegate actuator before he heads back to WR.