s13 with Kouki front question?

[tacos14]

how much trouble would it be to put a s14 kouki front on my s13 coupe?
what all would i have to do? just wondering.....

[suprabrit]

They make kits for s13s. I personally wouldn't do it...the body lines don't line up, but they are out there, and it's all a matter of opinion...

s13 coupes + s13 silvia front-ends ftw! :goodjob:

[zakkkaliscious]

i think Bmagic makes a kit for this. yea i was right here it is. well really its just fenders but that gets most of if not all of the custom fab out of the way.hope this helps!

http://www.aitracing.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=192&products_id=1007

[tacos14]

thanks that dose help i still havent decided what im gonna do yet though!

silvia or kouki?

[Andy C]

No one likes stock usdm s13 front ends : (
(Except me)
Always has to be a conversion.

Do what you wish, but I dont think its going to be cheap.

[BruceAlmighty]

^agreed, but since you asked:

http://www.raceonusa.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=6487

[suprabrit]

No one likes stock usdm s13 front ends : (
Always has to be a conversion.


I'm just not a big fan of pop-ups, but on a hatch, I don't mind so much. But I would have to do some sort of fixed-headlights, like the carbon fiber ones with dual projectors.

Although in reality, I probably would just end up putting an s13 silvia front on it anyways... :)

[zakkkaliscious]

i like the pop-ups on the hatchies but not on a coupe

[BruceAlmighty]

pop-ups = problems

they are also extremely aggravating to look at when they are up, but thats just my thoughts.

on coupes, having pop-ups is breaking the 11th Commandment.

[Andy C]

I'm just not a big fan of pop-ups, but on a hatch, I don't mind so much. But I would have to do some sort of fixed-headlights, like the carbon fiber ones with dual projectors.

Although in reality, I probably would just end up putting an s13 silvia front on it anyways... :)

That sure is a lot of money to make your car ugly.:screwy: JK.

[tacos14]

hatch's look fine with pop ups

coupe+pop up light= not so much

sil front is over all cheaper as of what i have seen so far.

[suprabrit]

i like the pop-ups on the hatchies but not on a coupe

Agreed. Another annoying thing about pop-ups is when the car is winking b/c one is stuck up, lol.

[BruceAlmighty]

That sure is a lot of money to make your car ugly.:screwy: JK.

to each his own. :goodjob:

[suprabrit]

That sure is a lot of money to make your car ugly.:screwy: JK.

the front-end on my old coupe only ended up costing me...a little over $400. :wave:

[tacos14]

haha well thats nice.

[BruceAlmighty]

the front-end on my old coupe only ended up costing me...a little over $400. :wave:

yeah, i think mine ended up being about $350-375 on my old car. :taunt:

but yes, the Kouki front end is retarded expensive. i could buy three 240's for the price of it. :gay:

[Andy C]

to each his own. :goodjob:
For sure!

the front-end on my old coupe only ended up costing me...a little over $400. :wave:
Like i said. lol. JK. I like sil front ends, but damn 400$ can be a good bit of performance. But i have spent a few hundred bucks on cosmetic parts, so I guess i cant say anything.

[suprabrit]

Well, I'm the last one to put a bunch of money into looks, but I just like it so much better. But most front ends are liek $700-900, so i'd say I got a pretty good deal. ;)

[BruceAlmighty]

For sure!

Like i said. lol. JK. I like sil front ends, but damn 400$ can be a good bit of performance. But i have spent a few hundred bucks on cosmetic parts, so I guess i cant say anything.

no offense, but $400 wont buy shit performance wise for a KA. :crying:

[tacos14]

yeah i would end up spending more on the front end than i did on the damn car.
silfront ftw

[Andy C]

Who said anything about a KA? 400$ could be a few good suspension parts, or vlsd, or a boost controller, exhaust, or a lot of things.

[Echonova]

It can be done, be prepared to spend a lot of money to do it right.

[suprabrit]

no offense, but $400 wont buy shit performance wise for a KA. :crying:

Actually, $400 is almost half way to a 'decent' turbo kit. :goodjob:

[BruceAlmighty]

Andy, suspension, or a diff is not a performance item. neither of those make you power out of your motor.

what 'decent' turbo kit can you get for $800? show me... ;)

[suprabrit]

Andy, suspension, or a diff is not a performance item. neither of those make you power out of your motor.

what 'decent' turbo kit can you get for $800? show me... ;)

I think he meant performance as in, has an actual function...suspension helps cornering, etc, and the diff helps for traction (or loss of, depending on what you're goals are, lol)

And you know damn well we can piece together a turbo kit for a ka for less than $1000. You've even said it before...

[babowc]

$400.
Lets see.. performance wise...
Exhaust - $200 ebay

With $200 leftover, you really cant do anything in the performance (HP) department.
Maybe a set of used cams?
ORRRR.. SAFC1/2..

Fine tune your AFR.. no real benefit on stock KA.


*edit:
KA kit:
t25 turbo with smic -$350 at most
manifold - $100
safc - $200
DP - $100
Oil return/feed - $100

Thats given you use stock injectors, MAF, and FPR, as well as stock exhaust.

[BruceAlmighty]

I think he meant performance as in, has an actual function...suspension helps cornering, etc, and the diff helps for traction (or loss of, depending on what you're goals are, lol)

And you know damn well we can piece together a turbo kit for a ka for less than $1000. You've even said it before...

and i agree with him that there are other ways to spend money, but on a bone stock 'vert, $400 is going to give me shit for performance or handling. i guess i was just my car as an example. bad example Bruce! :screwy::mad:

yes, i know i could piece one together, but i thought you were talking about buying a kit. i was going to yell at you and tell you to post the link if you found one. ;):p

anyways, back on topic. :goodjob:

[suprabrit]

$400 could prob. get you an ebay exhaust, intake, and underdrive pulleys.

[BruceAlmighty]

$400.
Lets see.. performance wise...
Exhaust - $200 ebay

With $200 leftover, you really cant do anything in the performance (HP) department.
Maybe a set of used cams?
ORRRR.. SAFC1/2..

Fine tune your AFR.. no real benefit on stock KA.


*edit:
KA kit:
t25 turbo with smic -$350 at most
manifold - $100
safc - $200
DP - $100
Oil return/feed - $100

Thats given you use stock injectors, MAF, and FPR, as well as stock exhaust.

and you do the labor yourself. your also forgetting:

-BOV
-wastegate (if the turbo didnt have one)

[babowc]

But.. Kouki front on a S13 looks decent if you spend a bit of money.
In that case, Silvia front end would probably be the better choice.

S13.4 is too impractical for price unless you're trying to stand out/be unique.

*edit:
Oh yeah.. BOV and WG.
Stock T25 come with internal WG, so no problemo there..
BOV.. crushed DSM bov. - $30? hehe

[suprabrit]

and you do the labor yourself. your also forgetting:

-BOV
-wastegate (if the turbo didnt have one)

t25s are internally wastegated. :goodjob:

[BruceAlmighty]

$400 could prob. get you an ebay exhaust, intake, and underdrive pulleys.

agreed, but how much 'performance' is that going to actually get you? maybe 5-10hp on a good day at the dyno if your lucky. :taunt:


t25s are internally wastegated. :goodjob:

not all of them are. :toung:

[suprabrit]

This was my ka-t setup:
t3/t4 turbo and mani - $200 brand new
fmic - free
300zx tt fuel pump - free

I think that's all I had, but all I needed otherwise was a custom dp, piping made, an safc2 or something to run the injectors, a bov, a wastegate b/c mine was external, and a few other things...probably ~$500 more in parts...

[babowc]

sr t25 are.

[suprabrit]

agreed, but how much 'performance' is that going to actually get you? maybe 5-10hp on a good day at the dyno if your lucky. :taunt:



not all of them are. :toung:

SR ones are. And that's pretty much all they run, if they run a t25.

[BruceAlmighty]

ok, my head hurts from all this reading and arguning. you guys win. back on topic. :toung:

i dont personally like Kouki front ends on S13's but they are available and can be
made to fit nicely if you wanted to. :)

[Andy C]

How much did it cost to fix all you problems on your ka-t?
sorry for ruining your thread man.

[babowc]

Well wow..we veered off topic.
Anyways.. say no to s13.4 unless you're completely set on it and have funds to back it up.

otherwise.. stay stock or go with the silvia front.

[suprabrit]

How much did it cost to fix all you problems on your ka-t?
sorry for ruining your thread man.

I know what you're saying...ka-t's = problems. :rolleyes:

I never got it turbo'd, I sold the car and all my turbo stuff to get the red-headed slut.

[BruceAlmighty]

^no, no. its the fat red-headed whore. :D

[wantboost]

i like the pop-ups on the hatchies but not on a coupe

yep yep yep

[down_shift]

I love pop ups. My preference on coupes. Ken Gushi's Rotara era 240 was awesome.

kouki front 13s are hawtsauce

Sil80s should be outlawed

[BruceAlmighty]

to each their own...

[suprabrit]

I love pop ups. My preference on coupes. Ken Gushi's Rotara era 240 was awesome.

kouki front 13s are hawtsauce

Sil80s should be outlawed

You have green or orange wheels. Your opinion doesn't count.

Just kidding!! ;)

[BruceAlmighty]

You have green or orange wheels. Your opinion doesn't count.

Just kidding!! ;)

no, your not. :lmfao:

[down_shift]

I've done the bland thing.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/599000-599999/599885_111_full.jpg

[suprabrit]

It looked good. But your car definitely catches people's eye now.

Nothing wrong with being unique. +1 for that.

[BruceAlmighty]

I've done the bland thing.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/599000-599999/599885_111_full.jpg

ah ha! thats the car i saw coming down Shiloh the other day. looked clean. :goodjob:

[suprabrit]

ah ha! thats the car i saw coming down Shiloh the other day. looked clean. :goodjob:

You couldn't have the other day. His wheels are orange now, I think?

downshift, is that you? Or someone else?

[BruceAlmighty]

it looks like the one i saw.

[down_shift]

That was a couple years ago. Theres a clone around KSU looks very similar.

[suprabrit]

Who's the guy with the orange wheels then? I thought someone said that was you?

[BruceAlmighty]

so your rockin' the green wheels or what? damn, im confused... :thinking:

[down_shift]

a couple years ago
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/599000-599999/599885_111_full.jpg

a couple weeks ago
http://www.e12m535i.com/MISC/svt_right_front.jpg

me in the future
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-oldwest/CoveredWagonInOregon-500.jpg

[BruceAlmighty]

oh, sweet. i get it now.

:rolleyes:

[suprabrit]

Hey, don't always let SVT Contours fool you...granny's sleeper car.

[down_shift]

http://espn.go.com/i/page2/photos/040414fingers.jpg

glad we cleared that up

[BruceAlmighty]

now...

back on topic.

[suprabrit]

Kouki front ends = hot.

I'm trying to get my brother to do one on his zenki, especially now that he got backed into...and he already has the kouki tails. (b/c of his nice big sis haha) :goodjob:

[BruceAlmighty]

Kouki front ends = hot.

I'm trying to get my brother to do one on his zenki, especially now that he got backed into...and he already has the kouki tails. (b/c of his nice big sis haha) :goodjob:

^agreed, but only on S14's. :cheers:

[down_shift]

fucking baller
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a268/AFIDAY182/s13.jpg

[Andy C]

Wow. Thats sexy!

[omgwtfbbq]

Somebody needs to do a Zenki S14 front on a S13 hatch. lol

[down_shift]

http://img195.exs.cx/img195/1739/2400016sl.jpg

[babowc]

^that is just horrible.

[omgwtfbbq]

^^Those lights look pointier than usual. I expected it to look worse actually.

[babowc]

yeah, they modified the hood to incorporate the "eye-lid"

that is horrendous.

[Wes]

I kinda dig that on the hatch. I should just do that to mine. I could pull a Zenki front off alot cheaper than a silfront.

[hellfire]

Yuri's S13.4 is incredible. Its really not all that expensive. The only things you need are Lights, Fenders, Front Bumper and Hood. Which if you are building a car, you are already getting fenders usually, and same with the hood and front bumper. All you need is the lights. We are doing it on our coupe, when it falls into the line of projects that actually gets worked on.

Tyler

[Wes]

Yuri's S13.4 is incredible. Its really not all that expensive. The only things you need are Lights, Fenders, Front Bumper and Hood. Which if you are building a car, you are already getting fenders usually, and same with the hood and front bumper. All you need is the lights. We are doing it on our coupe, when it falls into the line of projects that actually gets worked on.

Tyler

Are you talking about the black vert? And is that the same one that was in Modified, er Improt Tuner or something a couple months back?

[hellfire]

No, this is Yuri's car.

http://www.240atlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=818&d=1187666351

[Wes]

No, this is Yuri's car.

http://www.240atlanta.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=818&d=1187666351

Yeah, that car is pretty sick. I'm a big fan of 2-tone coupes anyways. Has anyone ever seen a 2-tone hatch? I know they didn't make them, but has anyone ever painted one in that color scheme?

[ahmonrah]

No one likes stock usdm s13 front ends : (
(Except me)
Always has to be a conversion.

Do what you wish, but I dont think its going to be cheap.personall, i like the 180front end, just want to get fixed headlights, was gonna get them done custom by full efx in decatur off of valley brook, but unfortunately i went by there and they are now closed
:gay:

they did this truck for a busta rhymes video some time ago...and in doing so, got the attention of mercedes benz, with navigation system, on bags and ostrich interior, the truck was hot...and a RWD, 6spd widebody second generation acura legend.
http://www.fullefx-online.com/products/7l.jpg

http://www.fullefx-online.com/products/14l.jpg