Pics Of Aluminum exhaust!!!!

[Campo]

Alright here they are.
This is the exhaust that has been driven on for two years and was not cleaned or anything before these pics were taken.
It took, i swear to god, one minute and thirty sec. to take the exhaust off.
Thats how easy V-band is. I love it.

Well here they are.....

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/4campo/0201091525.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/4campo/0201091525a.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/4campo/0201091527.jpg

Welds have yet to break......Or crack.....Or bend....
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/4campo/0201091526.jpg

Now to the weighing........Can you do this with your steal exhaust? I think Not.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/4campo/0201091549.jpg

My weight alone......
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/4campo/0201091550.jpg

Now me holding the Exhaust.......Only Three pounds.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/4campo/0201091551.jpg

[Keith]

450$ for a 3 inch catback?

[Elizabeth Reed]

so why is this in the input section?

[The Bean]

^ right...

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

Wrong section... FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Real Keith]

450$ for a 3 inch catback?

^I'm with him. Is it straightpiped too?

[Campo]

Gotta pay for power and quality man.

[Elizabeth Reed]

do you have dyno tests to prove these huge power improvements over a regular exhaust that nearly everyone else runs?

[Cameron.]

are those your welds? and you charge 60 bucks to weld a diff, when i know of a shop that double plates it, and welds a helluva lot better than that for 75.

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

No dyno charts=FAIL!!!!

[Cameron.]

have fun with that thing rusting.

[The Bean]

The first set of dimes are nice....


have fun with that thing rusting.

Aluminum doesn't rust. Rust refers only to iron and steel corrosion.

[Cameron.]

thats why i barely passed chemistry.

ok,

have fun not selling any.

[Campo]

Aluminum does not rust.
And i pull out diffs weld them and put them back in for 60 bucks.
And i dont need dyno charts to prove it.
If you wanna run a jetta with this setup on ten pounds.
Find out for yourself if this setup is the way to go.
This exhaust and the mind behind this idea has top ten fastest jetta in the state on only ten pounds.
And this exhaust has been running strong for two years!!!!

[Elizabeth Reed]

top 10 fastest jetta dawg!!!!

and yes, if you are actually trying to sell these, you need proof that sounding like shit will make u have more power

[Cameron.]

so your welding a diff for 60 bucks still, it aint worth nothing for someone to remove it for you. but anyways glws.

[Campo]

so your welding a diff for 60 bucks still, it aint worth nothing for someone to remove it for you. but anyways glws.


Huhhh?
It aint worth nothing?

[EONGbit]

baller exhaust!! looks good.

[Cameron.]

nope, not if your welds look like that and not to mention it not being plated.

[Elizabeth Reed]

baller exhaust!! looks good.

Lol i'd hate to see what else this guy thinks is 'baller'

[Campo]

top 10 fastest jetta dawg!!!!

and yes, if you are actually trying to sell these, you need proof that sounding like shit will make u have more power


Ok then.
I will go to the dyno and get some proof.
Or you can race him and find out first hand:goodjob:

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

The weight you save on this does not justify the cost or sound

[Elizabeth Reed]

Ok then.
I will go to the dyno and get some proof.
Or you can race him and find out first hand:goodjob:

ok, well you know you will have to test them against other top exhausts, right?

[Campo]

The weight you save on this does not justify the cost or sound

Have you herd it yet?

[Elizabeth Reed]

Have you herd it yet?

have you posted vids of it? no

this is an example of how not to sell something

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

Yes on many different cars.. kthx

[Campo]

ok, well you know you will have to test them against other top exhausts, right?

Why would i have to when other people have already tested theres.
And 450 is not bad at all for a full v-band setup exhaust.

[Cameron.]

i could build that exhaust with a flanges for way cheaper...

[Campo]

Yes on many different cars.. kthx

With a setup like this?
And i mean exactly like this.

[The Real Keith]

Well its still a 3" bent piece of aluminum for $450.

Run open downpipe!

[Campo]

i could build that exhaust with a flanges for way cheaper...

Im glad you could.
But not all people can.
Thats why im doing this.
And man have you ever messed with a v-band exhaust.
Its sooooooo much nicer than flanges man.
You have no idea.

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

For this price i would just get a Buddy Club Spec 2 and save myself 50 bucks
http://www.frsport.com/images/detailed_images/BuddyClub_BC03SP2EXS13_1.jpg

[Campo]

Well its still a 3" bent piece of aluminum for $450.

Run open downpipe!

No, its hangers, good welds, V-bands, and a bent peice of Aluminum.

[The Real Keith]

For this price i would just get a Buddy Club Spec 2 and save myself 50 bucks

^ and that even comes with a muffler!

[Elizabeth Reed]

where are the good welds at

[Campo]

For this price i would just get a Buddy Club Spec 2 and save myself 50 bucks

And you can do that.
But how unique is that?
And if you get an exhaust from me.
You can design and i build.
So its not my exhaust, not buddy clubs, no ones, its your own exhaust.
Your design, just someone else gave you the little innertia push to do it.

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

But you dont have a warranty with your exhaust. And i kno buddy clubs quality is top of the line.

[Campo]

where are the good welds at

Uhmmm.....Welll those welds on a two year exhaust that gets raced, and driven everyday on dirt roads and what not.
And they have yet to show any aging.
Yeah, your right. they are not good at all.......:lmfao:

[Cameron.]

dude, its just an exhaust, on a majority of shitbox 240's that will be buying your exhaust.

[Elizabeth Reed]

sinc ewhen do welds age? jw

[Campo]

But you dont have a warranty with your exhaust

Thats what friendship is hommie.
Everyone that i do work for has always called bout something and i have done lots of stuff for them for absolutely nothing and i have only met them once!
If something breaks on the exhaust.
just call me up and it will be fixed.
Sound ok?

[Cameron.]

im done with this thread, its full of stupid.

[Elizabeth Reed]

im done with this thread, its full of stupid.

x300

[Campo]

sinc ewhen do welds age? jw

If not done well, They break, crack, loose strength.
That sorta thing.


im done with this thread, its full of stupid.

Nice to meet ya.....

[Elizabeth Reed]

If not done well, They break, crack, loose strength.
That sorta thing.

thats not aging...

[Wes]

Im pretty sure if you didn't have that high of a price tag on a forum full of mostly broke folks, you wouldn't have all the hate.

I mean, Im sure its nice, but at $450, thats more than I've paid for most of my S13's, lol, and seeing that there are no dynos with before and after gains, I mean, its kinda hard to sell something without proof.

[Elizabeth Reed]

Im pretty sure if you didn't have that high of a price tag on a forum full of mostly broke folks, you wouldn't have all the hate.

I mean, Im sure its nice, but at $450, thats more than I've paid for most of my S13's, lol, and seeing that there are no dynos with before and after gains, I mean, its kinda hard to sell something without proof.

my entire point.

[Campo]

thats not aging...

Then what is it?
When something is in existence, it ages.
Am i wrong?

[Wes]

Not to mention being somewhat of a smartass isnt going to help you sell your product either...

[Elizabeth Reed]

its not aging, it's doing something incorrectly

[Campo]

Im pretty sure if you didn't have that high of a price tag on a forum full of mostly broke folks, you wouldn't have all the hate.

I mean, Im sure its nice, but at $450, thats more than I've paid for most of my S13's, lol, and seeing that there are no dynos with before and after gains, I mean, its kinda hard to sell something without proof.


I know man.
But i like eating, and you cant buy food without money.
And the most expensive thing is the v-bands.
But i know there are a few people that like to build there cars with quality stuff.
And believe me i know about being cheap.

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

Make me a exhaust like this and ill buy it
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/img_1050_rally26.jpg

[Cameron.]

I know man.
But i like eating, and you cant buy food without money.
And the most expensive thing is the v-bands.
But i know there are a few people that like to build there cars with quality stuff.
And believe me i know about being cheap.

then dont do vbands..... how often do you take an exhaust off? and not to mention, most of the time when you do it, its on a lift. and undoing 2 nuts is not hard....


Make me a exhaust like this and ill buy it
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/img_1050_rally26.jpg

now thats a damn exhaust, what is that powerhouse amuse?

[Campo]

Not to mention being somewhat of a smartass isnt going to help you sell your product either...


im not trying to be a smart ass.
But its kinda hard when all people wanna do is prove you wrong.
I mean, its not like they are an exhaust company competing for profit.
But they act like they HAVE to prove this wrong.
I have pics and proof that this exhaust is durable, light, well put together.
So why is it such a bad idea?

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

make me my exhaust dam it

[Cameron.]

its not the idea!!! its the price for a godamn straight pipe!!! get it through your head!!!!!!!


R33 3 inch Dia. Round Bar 6061-T6 Aluminum Round 12.0 Ft. 1 In Stock $278.88 $278.88

[Elizabeth Reed]

prove to me that this exhaust will give me more power than my run of the mil exhaust and i will buy one

[EONGbit]

im not trying to be a smart ass.
But its kinda hard when all people wanna do is prove you wrong.
I mean, its not like they are an exhaust company competing for profit.
But they act like they HAVE to prove this wrong.
I have pics and proof that this exhaust is durable, light, well put together.
So why is it such a bad idea?

your stuff is nice and everything but the price is killing everyone.

[Campo]

then dont do vbands..... how often do you take an exhaust off? and not to mention, most of the time when you do it, its on a lift. and undoing 2 nuts is not hard....



now thats a damn exhaust, what is that powerhouse amuse?

But with v-bands, you dont have to worry bout changing gaskets and when you do need to take the exhaust off, its just so easy and you dont have to worry bout bolts and nuts rusting and not coming off.

And how much is that exhaust?

[raulck_hn17]

trully i think that the people who would get this exhaust are the weight savers.. how does it sound?? well like open downpipe but longer i guess.. apperently it only weights like 4 pounds compared to 30 or so.. so is it worth it?? yeah.. dyno sheets?? if u have a boosted car u wouldnt care about a dyno sheet coz its open n has no resonance or restrictions.. i think its a bad ass exhaust.. glws

[Campo]

prove to me that this exhaust will give me more power than my run of the mil exhaust and i will buy one

I will get to a dyno as soon as i can man.

[Cameron.]

there not going to rust if they are quality bolts...... dont buy shit parts, you wont have no problem. get rid of the vbands and i might consider one.

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

It was custom, about $600-700

[Cameron.]

you sure thats not amuse lol.

[raulck_hn17]

id probably drop the rice to $399.. its a nice exhaust people..

[Cameron.]

or get rid of the vbands and sell it for 300 all day long.

[Shiri Juu Atenza]

Im 100% sure its not amuse. Its not titanium

[Cameron.]

ah, just looked like there quality lol.

[Campo]

its not the idea!!! its the price for a godamn straight pipe!!! get it through your head!!!!!!!


R33 3 inch Dia. Round Bar 6061-T6 Aluminum Round 12.0 Ft. 1 In Stock $278.88 $278.88

278 + 50 for vband + 3hr of labor at 50 bucks an hr.(which is low for shop labor) + 25 welding supply = $503.

When you think about it.
$450 isnt that bad is it?

[Nisxsz]

looks nice. too pricey for me though.

[Campo]

id probably drop the rice to $399.. its a nice exhaust people..

Thanks man.
And if someone offered me $399 politely for it.
I would take it.

[raulck_hn17]

whoever cant buy it will critisize until u drop the price to what they can afford.. rock ur prize n thats it.. hks s very sweet n bla bla bla.. but once again is a lot more.. at the end of the day is a lot heavier n u have what everybody has

[Wes]

im not trying to be a smart ass.
But its kinda hard when all people wanna do is prove you wrong.
I mean, its not like they are an exhaust company competing for profit.
But they act like they HAVE to prove this wrong.
I have pics and proof that this exhaust is durable, light, well put together.
So why is it such a bad idea?


Well, why don't you prove yourself right?

I mean, in theory its a good idea, but theory and proof are two different things.

[Cameron.]

278 + 50 for vband + 3hr of labor at 50 bucks an hr.(which is low for shop labor) + 25 welding supply = $503.

When you think about it.
$450 isnt that bad is it?

are you a shop?


thats why i said i would do my own. 278 + 20 dollar exhaust flange = 298 dollars.

[Campo]

looks nice. too pricey for me though.

Understood...


are you a shop?


thats why i said i would do my own. 278 + 20 dollar exhaust flange = 298 dollars.

No im not a shop.
But you just cant do work for free....

[Cameron.]

i can. my own work. and with something as simple as making a straight pipe, i think i will stick to doing my own work.

[Campo]

Well, why don't you prove yourself right?

I mean, in theory its a good idea, but theory and proof are two different things.

The only thing thats not proven yet is power.
Weight, reliability, and stregnth have already been proven.


i can. my own work. and with something as simple as making a straight pipe, i think i will stick to doing my own work.

Thats all im saying.
You wouldnt just buy me some stuff and weld it for me for nothing would you?

[Nisxsz]

ya should get dyno proofs... mhm. Then make some sales. :)

[Campo]

I will try and go this week.

[raulck_hn17]

why is everybody against this guy or exhaust.. u guys should appreciate imo that he is making a product n trying to put it on the market.. u dotn like it or cant afford it then dont say anything.. i dont see anybody writing emails to apexi n hks about their prices n shit.. n dont tell me that is just because he hasnt dyno prove n hks has.. coz thats crap.. if you know so much about cars u should know how much power n exhaust like this (straight through) would give u and how it will alter the powerband for your setup. i just think we lacking on respect here..

[whitepony22]

After reading all of this, my .02 is this. Campo, if the exhaust is working for you, glws. Theres a buyer for every price. It looks decent. And you have like you said your personal touch in it, which if you were to make like a blast pipe set someone may buy that for $400-$450, just an idea.

But personally, unless you were going for a show car with an HKS, Blitz, etc, its a 240. Most of them are beat to shit, beat on the track, and beat on the street. Spending tons on an exhaust that drags on the ground isn't worth it. That would be my only hesistation of having an aluminum exhaust. I helped build one for a track only R32, and even being tucked up after just dragging a few times it wore holes more easily than the old stainless. That would be like I said my only concern.

Then again if you bought cheap used kits for an R32, and fabbed the mid pipe you could make actual money selling rare exhausts to people. I paid $125 for a 90mm Bee*R off an R32, cut/re welded the mid pipe and have a downpipe/header back for an hour of fab and maybe $5 in welding supplies.

Again, good luck, but just take into account not everyone will ever like what you did/are doing. I respect the orginality.

[0displacement]

i agree with originality as said above. but comon. really?

you are trying to sell this exhaust solely on the fact that it is aluminum and has a v band on it.... neither of the 2 are amazing, and thats not even bringing into the account the "quality" of the welds on that exhaust.

and then the fact that it is , as you have stated, just a straight pipe... saving 10 lbs on a car making 200hp isnt doing anything for the car and imo cant be justified by spending 400$ on a straight pipe.

and that 278$ was for 12 ft of aluminum pipe. pretty sure u wont use more than half that on the exhaust.

my pennies worth

[maxed1]

It looks fine..............

Hey a good salesman allways says thier stuff is the best what do you want him to do tell you its weak i dont think anyone on here selling something would start off by saying " turbo for sale its the smallest weakest one made 350.00"

[SCato]

lol.


Become a mini vendor before you try and sell this "exhaust" on 240atl. Or if you do have a business license become a real Vendor.

with that out the way. Atleast get a F-Ing Sound Clip.

[andrew]

look this is what you need to do.
1. dyno chart asap. if you can do, stock, your exhaust, and a regular steel exhaust.
2. work on your welds. a lot of people will NOT buy your product because of how the welds look. seriously.
3. lower the price. i understand you need money to pay the bills, etc. BUT! you cannot start with a new idea and sell it with a price jacked thru the roof. start WAY lower, people will buy, and hopefully it will set off for you, and as the popularity of the product increases you can in turn also increase the price.
4. post a video. start, idle, rev up, and drive by. even in car sound while going thru the gears.

i like the idea of a lighter exhaust. stainless steel does weigh a bit. i personally recommend getting on sccatlanta.com and trying to sell to people who see a lot of track time. aluminum exhausts cut weight and can cut lap times. less weight, faster times.
GLWS man and hope it all works out for you.
-andrew

[Cash]

ugh.. I'm trying to sell my apexi n1 dual exhaust system for like $300 and nobody wants it..


I know man.
But i like eating, and you cant buy food without money.
And the most expensive thing is the v-bands.
But i know there are a few people that like to build there cars with quality stuff.
And believe me i know about being cheap.

Ti

[I RON DON KEY]

hey man, PROPS to you for attempting this.

Here's the thing though- You are trying to bring out a product that has no evidence to back up it's performance. All you have is the creditability of 2 years. Your product has not been proven. With that said, the price on this product would not be worth it. Paying close to $500 for an exhaust that was home mad? Money is hard to come by now a days. The opportunity cost for that money is too great. There are other proven and great exhausts out there for that money.

You should try out what Babow does- he paints cars for practice, but will only charge the person for supplies. That way he gets experience in painting cars, the car owner will have better paint, and only paying for supplies.
You need to work on those welds..lol..so why not do what he does? to practice and perfect.

and post a sound video up too, show some examples of how that SHAMWOW works and sounds.

[babowc]

First off, wrong section.
Second, you're not a paying advertiser.

If you want to sell your services, please sign up for a vendor status. Not the MINI-vendor status, you need to purchase the real vendor status.