KA24DET vs SR20DET

[Buccaneer_9]

In your opinion, which one is better?

Ready. Set. Go.

[v-empire]

there is no such thing as a KA24DET.

that is all.

[Buccaneer_9]

Man Dave, you are so smart!

KA24DE + Turbo = KA24DET

[Andy C]

yall suck at math.

ka24de+turbo = ka24de-t (not ka24det. you have to add the dash) jk

i like both, but i went with sr since its easier and prooven to be an easier motor to make reliable power in.

[240sarejunk]

Can we add a twin turbo Murcielago motor to the poll?

[Neejay]

Good luck. These type threads WILL turn into debating.

Many different factors are involved though, as well as personal preference.

[Andy C]

Can we add a twin turbo Murcielago motor to the poll?

lmao

[Campo]

i have a Ka-t and its been damn realiable and it can beat quite a few SR 's.

[Jorgen]

KA-T hands down

[Buccaneer_9]

Can we add a twin turbo Murcielago motor to the poll?
No sir.

[Memme]

Pedal power FTW yo...

[Jorgen]

My estimate is at roughly 1.5X the cost of an SR swap (if you have a shop do it), you could rebuilt and turbo your KA. Leaving you with a rebuilt, bigger and better motor.

[Memme]

I would estimate lower... and not rebuild it. Wewt!

If someone had a properly built KA-T and an SR20DET sitting on a pallet side by side and said "Choose one"... I would pick the KA-T every time.

I'm going to throw in a cliche just to piss SR people off...

"No replacement for displacement."

Hahah...

But hey... this is in the right area... DRAMA FTW!


My new slogan... "KA24DE: Well mine's bigger, so there."

[Infinite]

i have a Ka-t and its been damn realiable and it can beat quite a few SR 's.
we know you have a girlfriend.... resize your damn sig

[Decker]

sr20

[scoob.]

we know you have a girlfriend.... resize your damn sig
some nigga didnt get his wheaties..

but ka-t.
their part rhino..

[Campo]

we know you have a girlfriend.... resize your damn sig
You mad or Jealous?
lol just kidding.
im working on it right now.

[Infinite]

neither
annoyed

[Jorgen]

Douchebag power?

[Infinite]

deal with it

[Buccaneer_9]

You mad or Jealous?
lol just kidding.
im working on it right now.
Fuck the haters Campo...leave your sig the way you want to.

Plus, your girl looks cute in that outfit!

Reps will be given.

[scoob.]

22r injected with gay sauce..
there beast.

[Infinite]

Fuck the haters Campo...leave your sig the way you want to.

Plus, your girl looks cute in that outfit!

Reps will be given.
nut ride much?

there is a sig restriction in place
and he grossly violates that

[FlyingStroke240]

sr for reliability.

[Cash]

i just bought a new vehicle with a inline 6 and it is SOOO SLOW!!

[Jorgen]

deal with it

hey man... more power to ya!:goodjob:

[Infinite]

i know..
lol

[Buccaneer_9]

nut ride much?

there is a sig restriction in place
and he grossly violates that
You sound a lot like a hater.

How is complimenting someone's girlfriend considered nut-riding?

Thanks for pointing out his sig violation. You're a good moderator...oh, wait...

[Infinite]

as member #002 and co-founder
i say
shut the fuck up

[Campo]

as member #002 and co-founder
i say
shut the fuck up
hahahahahahha
:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Buccaneer_9]

as member #002 and co-founder
i say
shut the fuck up
WOW! Member number 002?!
May I have your autograph?!
Make me shut the fuck up...

[zcrew]

yall suck at math.

ka24de+turbo = ka24de-t (not ka24det. you have to add the dash) jk

i like both, but i went with sr since its easier and prooven to be an easier motor to make reliable power in.

wouldn't the proper math show ka24de+turbo = ka24de+t ??? or perhaps ka24de-t > sr20det ???? :ohnoes:

[v-empire]

i was just messing around and diction-ing oem codes, thats was all.

refer to it as you please, i dont care.. carry on.

[Infinite]

WOW! Member number 002?!
May I have your autograph?!
Make me shut the fuck up...
i bet you like breathing...

[Jorgen]

What are the PRO's of the SR?
The first thing I can think of is its lighter than the KA.

[Z infidel]

SR20DET. I dont want a motor that is destined to grenade.

[Infinite]

more aftermarket support for the sr as well

[Buccaneer_9]

i bet you like breathing...
Sorry man. Please don't hurt me.
http://www.ffxils.ca/ethug2.jpg
http://spicytunas.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/ethug.jpg
http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/ethug_572.jpg

[Jorgen]

SR20DET. I dont want a motor that is destined to grenade.

havnt you heard? the KA is a truck motor. :p

[Memme]

nut ride much?

there is a sig restriction in place
and he grossly violates that

I has Avatars, and Sigs turned: OFF

Bunch of damned deliquents on here. :graypirate:

[Z infidel]

havnt you heard? the KA is a truck motor. :p

Oh yeah I did and if you have an SR you become a super good USJDM driftyr!

[Jorgen]

Oh yeah I did and if you have an SR you become a super good USJDM driftyr!
Like magic to! No practice or work. All you need is an SR! :cheers:

[v-empire]

when you put a VS on something like that.. wont you need perimeters?

what makes it better?

what makes it worst?

based on a set number of variable, wants, need, and perimeters.... then you can gauge.
your need and wants may be different from someone else's



dumbasses..

[Spicoli]

jw i no there different engines but i mean really what does it matter they both have there flaws and there goods right i mean sr is more powerfull and the ka is good i just dk what really is the difference

[Z infidel]

I want a diesel added to the poll. I <3 instant torque.

[Memme]

I think the guy who does the commercials for those Magic German towels should do a commercial for SR20 swaps...

You know... A couple of Nissan SR20's would pull a premium one week before Race Wars.

[Z infidel]

I think the guy who does the commercials for those Magic German towels should do a commercial for SR20 swaps...

You know... A couple of Nissan SR20's would pull a premium one week before Race Wars.

yeah but can they soak up oil and coolant in one wipe? A KA-T could sure spit some! (keep the rivalry going!)

[Spicoli]

hahahahahah nice

[v-empire]

jolly ranchers vs billy goat

[Memme]

jw i no there different engines but i mean really what does it matter they both have there flaws and there goods right i mean sr is more powerfull and the ka is good i just dk what really is the difference

No it's not.

This is KA24DET vs SR20DET.... not KA24DE vs SR20DET.

There's a difference.

[Z infidel]

jolly ranchers vs billy goat

what flavor?

[Memme]

jolly ranchers vs billy goat


LOL at even having to ask. :D

Billy Goat FTW.

[Jorgen]

KA-T has more torque.
I think the SR has a better torque curve?

[Memme]

yeah but can they soak up oil and coolant in one wipe? A KA-T could sure spit some! (keep the rivalry going!)


Mine sure does.

I installed some Front Main Seal Failant a while back and ever since, it's been failing.

That will be resolved next week though.

[Buccaneer_9]

I think the guy who does the commercials for those Magic German towels should do a commercial for SR20 swaps...

You know... A couple of Nissan SR20's would pull a premium one week before Race Wars.
Too true!

You mean the ShamWow?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8

Don't forget about the Slap Chop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUbWjIKxrrs

[Memme]

KA-T has more torque.
I think the SR has a better torque curve?

Uhh... no... lol.

The SR would have to actually have torque to have a better torque curve. ;)

[v-empire]

what flavor?

truck flavor


LOL at even having to ask. :D

Billy Goat FTW.

billy goat.ftw!!.

i heard from moses and penelope that these BG'S are to die for!!!

they also said the jolly ranchers sometimes smell like stinky llamas.

[Jorgen]

power band? you know what i mean. KA's shift roughly 5K to 5.5K, SR's power band is good till redline.

[Memme]

Yeah, and you know you can swap a BG for ~12 Virgins in 90 percent of under-developed countries right?

[v-empire]

Ishahk Allah!

[Jorgen]

Yeah, and you know you can swap a BG for ~12 Virgins in 90 percent of under-developed countries right?

would the reverse apply? can i get 12 virgins for a billygoat in 90% of developing countries?

[Memme]

Oh, you can trade 12 Virgins for almost anything in developed countries... They don't recognize BG as currency though.

[Z infidel]

Yeah, and you know you can swap a BG for ~12 Virgins in 90 percent of under-developed countries right?

A white camel sells for over 60K in Kuwait. The hearder has the right to shoot anyone who threatens it. All the other camels surround it when they roam.

[Memme]

A white camel sells for over 60K in Kuwait. The hearder has the right to shoot anyone who threatens it. All the other camels surround it when they roam.


Sounds like I need a White Camel swap then... :graypirate:

KDM tyte yo.

[Jorgen]

http://www.camelphotos.com/cgi-bin/ads.cgi?ct=adult_bactrian&md=second&id=125&min=&max=

[Andy C]

:goodjob: @ staying on topic

[Jorgen]

White Camel swap, its the latest thing...

[Memme]

The only problem would be the harness...

[Jorgen]

http://www.camelphotos.com/camel_harness.html

[Memme]

Those links scare me.

Google lol...

So I want a Bactrian Camel Harness


IN CAPS!

CAMEL-HH

two humps.


Bet it has less slip.

[Neejay]

RB20 FTW!!!

lolz

[MOOREOFSTEPHEN]

another one of these.... this is endless. people will fight till death.

[Banzai]

I like both, but Sammy made up my mind when I was at his shop and he turned the boost on his SR to 28psi and said it should be making around 500hp. It was rediculous. Then I bought an SR. KA-t just isn't worth it.

[Memme]

I know... it totally isn't worth it to make more power for less money.

Why bother with that... that's for newbs.

You should see what happens when I turn up the boost to 470 psi.

[Banzai]

I know... it totally isn't worth it to make more power for less money.

Why bother with that... that's for newbs.

I guess you will realize it when your KA-t blows up after spending a lot of money on it.

[Jorgen]

yes, you can do impressive things with SR's, like that. but how much aftermarket crap did he have to do to it to turn the boost up to 28?

[Banzai]

yes, you can do impressive things with SR's, like that. but how much aftermarket crap did he have to do to it to turn the boost up to 28?

Completely stock motor
S14 SR
Stock Head gasket/ stock bolts.
740cc injectors
Walboro 255 fuel pump.
BC stage 2 cams 264, 12.05 lift
Megan turbo manifold
Power FC

thats his old setup and he made 381whp at 17psi his new setup makes 430 and when it was at 28psi he said it should be making around 500

[j.le]

500 hp is a whole other game....i think most people usually want to stay around 250-300whp....which a ka-t can get very cheaply lol

[240sarejunk]

Completely stock motor
S14 SR
Stock Head gasket/ stock bolts.
740cc injectors
Walboro 255 fuel pump.
BC stage 2 cams 264, 12.05 lift
Megan turbo manifold
Power FC

thats his old setup and he made 381whp at 17psi his new setup makes 430 and when it was at 28psi he said it should be making around 500

what turbo is he running at 2 bar?

[Grimace]

Can we add a twin turbo Murcielago motor to the poll?

Nah, We don't need things bursting into flames of fail for no reason.

[Cash]

what turbo is he running at 2 bar?

20g

[Memme]

I guess you will realize it when your KA-t blows up after spending a lot of money on it.

If it blows up, it will be because I spent very little money on it. Not because I spent a lot. :goodjob:

And it will likely have more to do with the skill of the tuner than the engine.

[j.le]

tune is everything...most ka-t blow up cuz of a shitty tune lol

[Banzai]

Any motor can blow up from a shitty tune.

[nismoka24det]

read my name what do you think

[Infinite]

well i think nismo never made anything for the ka24....

[Jorgen]

i got a nismo thermostat

[Memme]

well i think nismo never made anything for the ka24....

Well I think you're about as wrong as anyone can possibly be... but whatever. :graypirate:

You know that's not true Will!

I know you know that... you has to.

[j.le]

Any motor can blow up from a shitty tune. exactly lol u can have a fast reliable ka-t as long as its tuned right and how well the owner takes care of it... saying ka-t is a waste of money is kinda ignorant to say.

[Banzai]

exactly lol u can have a fast reliable ka-t as long as its tuned right and how well the owner takes care of it... saying ka-t is a waste of money is kinda ignorant to say.

to me it was a waste, believe me I had half my KA-t parts then I sold them to go SR.
Why do people always decide to go SR, especially for drifting? There is a reason. And its not to be a fanboy its a real good motor for drifting it was also meant to be boosted. And im deffinately not ignorant JLe. lol

[Jorgen]

theres nothing wrong with KA or SR, im just greedy and want the extra torque

[j.le]

to me it was a waste, believe me I had half my KA-t parts then I sold them to go SR.
Why do people always decide to go SR, especially for drifting? There is a reason. And its not to be a fanboy its a real good motor for drifting it was also meant to be boosted. And im deffinately not ignorant JLe. lol lol i didnt mean to call u a ignorant person just what u said i dont think is fully correct...yeah sr is a great motor...but i know u had to spend 5 grand for the full swap too...lol. reliable ka-t would cost like half that.

[Memme]

But not everyone drifts...

If I was a drifter... then I would want an SR20... and in a way... being a drifter automatically makes you a fanboy lol... :D


lol i didnt mean to call u a ignorant person just what u said i dont think is fully correct...yeah sr is a great motor...but i know u had to spend 5 grand for the full swap too...lol. reliable ka-t would cost like half that.


QFT.
:graypirate:


$5K... damn.

I'd have a real badass KA-T for $5K.

Actually... I would never put that kind of money into the engine of a 240SX... I couldn't justify it to the wife.

If I had $5K I'd just buy another car.

[Banzai]

lol i didnt mean to call u a ignorant person just what u said i dont think is fully correct...yeah sr is a great motor...but i know u had to spend 5 grand for the full swap too...lol. reliable ka-t would cost like half that.

this is true but i also bought really good parts. nothing was cheap. except maybe the intercooler but its just an intercooler and i already fucked it up. KA-t's are good if they are done correctly which is rare. but you cannot do it cheap and I highly suggest a rebuild atleast.

[scoob.]

i bet you like breathing...
wow. i bet i cant describe how lame you are.
i guess i won that bet..

[Banzai]

But not everyone drifts...

If I was a drifter... then I would want an SR20... and in a way... being a drifter automatically makes you a fanboy lol... :D




.

How the fuck does drifting make me a fanboy? Ive been drifting for 3 years man, does having a 240 make all of us fan boys sence they are the #1 drift car for not so rich folks?

[j.le]

cuz people do stupid ass tunes and blow them up...they give ka-t a bad name lol

[Banzai]

cuz people do stupid ass tunes and blow them up...they give ka-t a bad name lol

they also just peice together a kit on a old ass, burning oil KA that has been beat on for years..

[Infinite]

wow. i bet i cant describe how lame you are.
i guess i won that bet..
shut your fucking mouth


they also just peice together a kit on a old ass, burning oil KA that has been beat on for years..
q f t :wave:

[scoob.]

[quote=Infinite;548217]shut your fucking mouth
[quote]
or?
your a waste of life. you shut up.

[Infinite]

08 members talking shit
makes me go lol

you dont even have a 240...
http://www.b0dhi.com/gtfo.barker.jpg

[Wedge]

it would be nice to have the ka torque, but the motors are so damn ugly...

SR for me

[scoob.]

08 members talking shit
makes me go lol
ok.. and..
want-to-be hard asses over the internet make me lol too..

[Infinite]

i'll be in marietta monday
spsu campus
come talk shit to my face... fanboy

[scoob.]

really..

[Infinite]

yea
8am to 8pm
pick it faggot

[Memme]

How the fuck does drifting make me a fanboy? Ive been drifting for 3 years man, does having a 240 make all of us fan boys sence they are the #1 drift car for not so rich folks?

3 years is nothing... if you said you've been drifting since 1903, then you'd be an OG with street cred... but 3 years ago Drifting was ripe with fanboys.

But then I have relatively little respect for USDM drifting as a "motorsport"... so my opinion on the subject, you may not like. :goodjob:

I thought everyone knew that already. :thinking:

If fact, the assumption that anyone who owns a 240SX is into SR20's and Drifting got really OLD after 5+ years of owning this car... I never cared that it is the number one car of drifting. I like it because it looks nice, and it's a Nissan with a timing chain motor.

Call it a backlash. :graypirate:

It makes you a fanboy of drifting... you're male... you're a fan.

In my case... I'm a Haterboy. You have your fans, and your haters. I hate. That's what I do.

You = Fanboy of Drifting, and SR20's.

Me = KA-T Fanboy... and Grip FTW.

Can't argue with science.

[Infinite]

i like both
drifting is just hard for me to get used to...
when i look a a track or section of track
i see the line i should take for grip racing
apex clipping etc

[Buccaneer_9]

yea
8am to 8pm
pick it faggot
Congrats on being a D-Bag and an E-Thug!

[scoob.]

yea
8am to 8pm
pick it faggot
your making me lol.
and you dont know what you would get yourself into.
so no thanks.

[Infinite]

Congrats on being a D-Bag and an E-Thug!
well
he thinks im an ethug
im a hater
all i do is hate hate hate
get used to it
he wants to make me think otherwise
he knows where i'll be

[Buccaneer_9]

3 years is nothing... if you said you've been drifting since 1903, then you'd be an OG with street cred... but 3 years ago Drifting was ripe with fanboys.

But then I have relatively little respect for USDM drifting as a "motorsport"... so my opinion on the subject, you may not like. :goodjob:

I thought everyone knew that already. :thinking:

If fact, the assumption that anyone who owns a 240SX is into SR20's and Drifting got really OLD after 5+ years of owning this car... I never cared that it is the number one car of drifting. I like it because it looks nice, and it's a Nissan with a timing chain motor.

Call it a backlash. :graypirate:

It makes you a fanboy of drifting... you're male... you're a fan.

In my case... I'm a Haterboy. You have your fans, and your haters. I hate. That's what I do.

You = Fanboy of Drifting, and SR20's.

Me = KA-T Fanboy... and Grip FTW.

Can't argue with science.
Drifting sucks.

It's motorized figure skating or gymnastics...completely subjective sport.

If it's got judges to determine winners, it's ghey.:pirate::gay::graypirate:

Grip > Drift


well
he thinks im an ethug
im a hater
all i do is hate hate hate
get used to it
he wants to make me think otherwise
he knows where i'll be
Just relax dude. It's really not that crucial.

[Infinite]

If it's got judges to determine winners, it's ghey.:pirate::gay::graypirate:
this is the other problem
there really is no set "judging standard" for drifting
its just judge favorites, etc etc

thats the nice thing about grip
whoever is in front... wins
99% of the time



Just relax dude. It's really not that crucial.
i knoes
that accident i was in really pissed me off

sorries

[Memme]

they also just peice together a kit on a old ass, burning oil KA that has been beat on for years..

It's not burning oil! :eeek:

It's leaking like a MOFO... but that will be fixed.

Doesn't have time to burn it before it leaks out.

But last time I checked it was really clean inside, and compression was good. :yes:


this is the other problem
there really is no set "judging standard" for drifting
its just judge favorites, etc etc

thats the nice thing about grip
whoever is in front... wins
99% of the time


i knoes
that accident i was in really pissed me off

sorries


Heheh... funny how that works. And it's nearly the same in all sports... except... hmm...


Figure skating! :graypirate:

Hahah.

And it's not always just the judges... the crowd plays too...

I do like the glitter though.

Japan does it better.

San Rio Drift Crew FTW

[Z infidel]

I <3 grip.

Drifting is fun but its not my thing....unless its raining.

[Memme]

i like both
drifting is just hard for me to get used to...
when i look a a track or section of track
i see the line i should take for grip racing
apex clipping etc


I know what you mean...

I have no clue what line you're supposed to take for drift.

And I don't like crashing, my car is ugly enough... so grip FTW.

[Infinite]

i like being able to see the look on supercar owners faces when you pass them in some econobox

[Memme]

i like being able to see the look on supercar owners faces when you pass them in some econobox

SHUTUP YOU SATANIST!!! :mad_pirate:

:lmfao:

[Infinite]

lulz
why am i out of reps :(

[Memme]

Because you're a damn Satanist, Satanist!

I'm curious what the background is of someone who calls someone a "Satanist" in a derogatory way is...

It would probably concern me deeply for their well-being. Seems a little cultist.

[Infinite]

i'm the destroyer of souls
-truth

[240sarejunk]

i'm the destroyer of souls
-truth

you're the destroyer of sport coats and canvas belts that are too long.

[Infinite]

hahahahaha

[Banzai]

i must be in the wrong thread considering im not a hater.

[Infinite]

gtfo mike
truck driving mofo
take your trailer too
:lmfao:

[Banzai]

gtfo mike
truck driving mofo
take your trailer too
:lmfao:

shut it mofucka

[Infinite]

dont make me post the dog video

[Banzai]

dont make me post the dog video

holy shit

[Infinite]

yea
i said it

[Memme]

i must be in the wrong thread considering im not a hater.


Well yeah... this is in the Drama section... and and!

It's a KA vs SR thread lol.

[Banzai]

Well yeah... this is in the Drama section... and and!

It's a KA vs SR thread lol.

Damn i didnt even know it was in the drama section. shit

[Memme]

Damn i didnt even know it was in the drama section. shit

"Welll I found yer problem..."

We can't take another one of these threads as anything less than drama. The battle lines have been drawn...

[Levi]

uhhh:ohnoes:

[Photonic]

yall suck at math.

ka24de+turbo = ka24de-t (not ka24det. you have to add the dash) jk

i like both, but i went with sr since its easier and prooven to be an easier motor to make reliable power in.

How is it easier...a KA is already in your 240 when you buy it...And it makes power quite reliably. All thats been "proven" is that more people have been tuning SR's for longer..not that its easier

[Jorgen]

KA-T or STFU & GTFO!!!

[Andy C]

How is it easier...a KA is already in your 240 when you buy it...And it makes power quite reliably. All thats been "proven" is that more people have been tuning SR's for longer..not that its easier

god damn it. its easier . i promise it is. im not getting into it.

[Memme]

Ask Zippy / Iam99x how easy his KA-T was lol...

And how expensive... and how long it's been running without going BOOM...

Go ahead... I'll wait.

[Andy C]

no.

i said im not getting into it.

[GSAutotech84]

It all really depends on what your set up and goals are for the car, b/c both are good motors just depending on what set up you wanna go with can make the difference with them.

[Slip N Slide S14]

Watch this informative video and the argument will be settled

http://www.charlestonracing.com/pic/srvska.wmv

[J Squared]

I didnt read this thread, but I feel like I have to say something...























...I have HUGE balls.

[Echonova]

Can we add a twin turbo Murcielago motor to the poll?Dude, you should do it. That would be awesome.


I'll help do the swap if you buy the beer.

[kush240]

ka24dettttttt

[Echonova]

ka24detttttttLOL wut? I would take my blown SR over a running KA-T. Cause it'll be blown in a couple days anyway.

[kush240]

good, build em, enjoy em, blow em
start all over
they all work the same way
the difference in any engine is the type of $$$ u wanna put in it
reliability = amount of $$$ (well and who builds it too i guess)
just my personal opinion tho

[babowc]

I'll take both.

They're both good for what they're made to do.

well built ka24det will make good power.
well built sr20det will be probably be better for drifting.

i havent seen many ka24det that competes at a semi-pro or amature level in drifting.

[Z infidel]

I would cut them in half and weld them to each other and have two SKRAdet's to have for race wars, Mt. Akina, D1, and sweet parking lot rev matches at barrett!

[Banzai]

I would weld cut them in half and weld them to each other and have two SKRAdet's to have for race wars, Mt. Akina, D1, and sweet parking lot rev matches at barrett!

hahaha

my friend had his KA-t running off of all SR stuff, SR t25, SR injecotrs, SR ECU, SR manifold customized to fit KA head, i was like dude wtf just get an SR. but it made 210hp and 250ft/lbs so it was nice but he also blew 3 turbos. then later on after a year blew the motor cuz the wastegat line came off and boosted to like 50psi lol

[Z infidel]

hahaha

You laughing at me? POWER SHIFT!!!! (in caps)

[Banzai]

You laughing at me? POWER SHIFT!!!! (in caps)

shiiiiiit

[cuchito]

sr20det

[AFSil80]

Good to see y'all have exempted the CA18 from being a choice since it always wins. Gotta give those SR nutswingers a chance for thinking that they might win something, even though it's a dead giveaway when the KA24 is your only opponent.

[cjacob74]

sr20

:goodjob: me n decker have been working on this ka-t car for a while at the shop. and man is it a pain in the ass. theres soo much shit that needs to be done because the motor ISNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TURBO.. the oil return line is hell.

[AFSil80]

because the motor ISNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TURBO.. the oil return line is hell.

Doesn't stop the Honda guys from being boosted.

[Nick Jeezy]

i would take a sr over a ka.

but im a drifter fanyboy. as memme says.

he's a roadrace jackoff:gay:

but i just see alot of ka's blow up. but thats also not built.

most likely if your just gonna have a power contest dollar for dollar then a ka will win.

but when reliability comes in the a sr will probably win.

thats just me tho.

[Memme]

What can I say... I like actual racing. :goodjob:

Where torque counts... and the RPM's to spin tires fast while going slow... is rather irrelevant!

And where the idea is to conserve tires to make them last for just one more lap to get the edge over the other guy.

And no... I don't mean NASCAR. That's shit.

[2isbetterthan4]

V8, one day you kids will realize that power and realiability DO come in one package. and will destroy all.

That is all.

P.S. I voted KA-T cause Torque is where its at.:wave:

[Campo]

:goodjob: me n decker have been working on this ka-t car for a while at the shop. and man is it a pain in the ass. theres soo much shit that needs to be done because the motor ISNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A TURBO.. the oil return line is hell.
My oil return line was not hard at all.
That was actually one of the easiest things to do...

[Memme]

V8, one day you kids will realize that power and realiability DO come in one package. and will destroy all.

That is all.

P.S. I voted KA-T cause Torque is where its at.:wave:


Yeah... I wish I had the $ to go V8...

"Could've had a V8"

The KA-T is the poor mans LSx swap.


My oil return line was not hard at all.
That was actually one of the easiest things to do...


Isn't that just about the length and the position? Gravity FTW?!

[2isbetterthan4]

Isn't that just about the length and the position?

thats what all women want to hear

[scoob.]

Yeah... I wish I had the $ to go V8...

"Could've had a V8"

The KA-T is the poor mans LSx swap.

once my ka blows im going sb 350.
thats what happends when you have one lying around..

[Memme]

thats what all women want to hear

Lulz

[slammed95240sx]

Sr!

[J Squared]

Fuckin KA-T dude, that shit is a torque monster! This isnt even a contest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/candykane101/dyno.jpg

[Memme]

WTF?! Where'd you get my Dyno chart?

467mph... that's supposed to be a secret...

[scoob.]

Fuckin KA-T dude, that shit is a torque monster! This isnt even a contest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/candykane101/dyno.jpg
holy crap thats funny.
reps.

[AFSil80]

That's a good one.

I prefer my Supra dyno graph, however...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/AFSil80/lolwin.jpg

[whitekoop]

wat about a ka24e-t lol

[FlatWoodsMonster]

the battle can go on and on on what motor is better each one has its pros and cons. I cant choose one i like them both.

[scoob.]

driving a kat after haveing sr is like light and day.

[Decker]

Fuckin KA-T dude, that shit is a torque monster! This isnt even a contest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/candykane101/dyno.jpg

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[Photonic]

god damn it. its easier . i promise it is. im not getting into it.


Ok well lets break it down.

SR20

Step one- Search Internets for engine

Step 2- Buy SR20 from JHOT or Jarco or second hand source.

Step 3- Roll the dice on wether your engine is a JDM surprise cassarole with issues, Ive seen a lot of SR's COME totally shitty or break MISC components..so thats something to factor in as having to fix. I mean you ARE buying a "used" motor at the end of the day.

Step 4 - If its ok, Spend more money to put it in your car and make around 180-190 WHEEL hp. (or put the engine in your self and wire it up)

Step 5 - Tune the shit to make more HP because my KA-T with the same turbo will stomp it if I get around to it, Its just a fact, beef up the SR.

Estimated Cost/cost of time? 2k +



KA-T

step 1 - Oh shit dudes, I already have a KA in my car. Does it run good? Smoke? good compression? wliminate steps 1 2 AND 3 from sr right there.

Step 2 - Slap on turbo parts and fuel and drill your return line or if you want EASY by an adapter for your oil filter that gives you an external plug in.

Step 3 - Slap a tried and true tune in the car

Step 4 - Drive and go with more power/torque than the SR that cost 2k

Estimated cost and labor time for j00?? 900-1500$

Step 5 - go.. ....bbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttt-SKOODOOSH-brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttt

[Andy C]

you can make anything sound more difficult if u try.

whats easier: making a pbj or pop corn? i can make either one sound easier.


and i bought my sr rebuilt, so you can take a few of those steps off for some ppl.

[scoob.]

Ok well lets break it down.

SR20

Step one- Search Internets for engine

Step 2- Buy SR20 from JHOT or Jarco or second hand source.

Step 3- Roll the dice on wether your engine is a JDM surprise cassarole with issues, Ive seen a lot of SR's COME totally shitty or break MISC components..so thats something to factor in as having to fix. I mean you ARE buying a "used" motor at the end of the day.

Step 4 - If its ok, Spend more money to put it in your car and make around 180-190 WHEEL hp. (or put the engine in your self and wire it up)

Step 5 - Tune the shit to make more HP because my KA-T with the same turbo will stomp it if I get around to it, Its just a fact, beef up the SR.

Estimated Cost/cost of time? 2k +



KA-T

step 1 - Oh shit dudes, I already have a KA in my car. Does it run good? Smoke? good compression? wliminate steps 1 2 AND 3 from sr right there.

Step 2 - Slap on turbo parts and fuel and drill your return line or if you want EASY by an adapter for your oil filter that gives you an external plug in.

Step 3 - Slap a tried and true tune in the car

Step 4 - Drive and go with more power/torque than the SR that cost 2k

Estimated cost and labor time for j00?? 900-1500$

Step 5 - go.. ....bbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttt-SKOODOOSH-brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttt
gettem chuki.

[Photonic]

you can make anything sound more difficult if u try.

whats easier: making a pbj or pop corn? i can make either one sound easier.


and i bought my sr rebuilt, so you can take a few of those steps off for some ppl.


Theres a point to this. "easy" is subjective and ALSO some people get lucky with their motors, and unlucky with others. It may have been easier for YOU, but without a lot of data dealing with both in different configurations..initial conditions etc..hook ups with parts or engines w/e you cant say something is generally "easier"

There are plenty of examples of easy KA-T builds that run well. Plenty of examples of SR swaps being easy that run well, Even plenty of examples of SR swaps going horribly wrong AND ka-t's going horribly wrong. It doesn't prove anything, I think arguing about what engine is better really is stupid. It just matters what YOU like.

[Memme]

Ok well lets break it down.

SR20

Step one- Search Internets for engine

Step 2- Buy SR20 from JHOT or Jarco or second hand source.

Step 3- Roll the dice on wether your engine is a JDM surprise cassarole with issues, Ive seen a lot of SR's COME totally shitty or break MISC components..so thats something to factor in as having to fix. I mean you ARE buying a "used" motor at the end of the day.

Step 4 - If its ok, Spend more money to put it in your car and make around 180-190 WHEEL hp. (or put the engine in your self and wire it up)

Step 5 - Tune the shit to make more HP because my KA-T with the same turbo will stomp it if I get around to it, Its just a fact, beef up the SR.

Estimated Cost/cost of time? 2k +



KA-T

step 1 - Oh shit dudes, I already have a KA in my car. Does it run good? Smoke? good compression? wliminate steps 1 2 AND 3 from sr right there.

Step 2 - Slap on turbo parts and fuel and drill your return line or if you want EASY by an adapter for your oil filter that gives you an external plug in.

Step 3 - Slap a tried and true tune in the car

Step 4 - Drive and go with more power/torque than the SR that cost 2k

Estimated cost and labor time for j00?? 900-1500$

Step 5 - go.. ....bbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttt-SKOODOOSH-brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttt


Like an N60 MAF and 370cc injectors... running stock boost. Tried and true... Pretty simple.

[Jorgen]

thats a great break down, but i believe your price for a KA-T is wrong.
I got a T25 and manifold for about $200, low miles.
Oil adapter and lines, maybe $100
Fuel pump, $100
USED SR injectors, $100, New injectors $300-$500.
Intercooler piping and BOV, $250.
Exhaust: Downpipe is $100. High flow Cat (if you want one, and I do) $100.
Rest, maybe another $100 to $200.
Apexi Neo, or other SAFC, roughly $200. $300 installed, $50 for tuning
Boost guage, $50
I'd feel better with more guages, (oil temp, psi, water temp, ect.) $100
Boost controller, $20 to $200 (I like the AEM guage controller)
Wideband (optional) $200 (with guage)
Clutch upgrade - $250 installed, $200 to $600 for parts
am I missing anything?

I'd say more like $2k - $3k

[FlatWoodsMonster]

Ok well lets break it down.

SR20

Step one- Search Internets for engine

Step 2- Buy SR20 from JHOT or Jarco or second hand source.

Step 3- Roll the dice on wether your engine is a JDM surprise cassarole with issues, Ive seen a lot of SR's COME totally shitty or break MISC components..so thats something to factor in as having to fix. I mean you ARE buying a "used" motor at the end of the day.

Step 4 - If its ok, Spend more money to put it in your car and make around 180-190 WHEEL hp. (or put the engine in your self and wire it up)

Step 5 - Tune the shit to make more HP because my KA-T with the same turbo will stomp it if I get around to it, Its just a fact, beef up the SR.

Estimated Cost/cost of time? 2k +



KA-T

step 1 - Oh shit dudes, I already have a KA in my car. Does it run good? Smoke? good compression? wliminate steps 1 2 AND 3 from sr right there.

Step 2 - Slap on turbo parts and fuel and drill your return line or if you want EASY by an adapter for your oil filter that gives you an external plug in.

Step 3 - Slap a tried and true tune in the car

Step 4 - Drive and go with more power/torque than the SR that cost 2k

Estimated cost and labor time for j00?? 900-1500$



ya but can you beat on it as hard as you can an SR motor??? I dont think so.

[Andy C]

with all the problems ppl have had building ka-t's, i wouldnt feel comfortable building one unless i rebuilt the motor.

yeah yeah the motor is prooven to be able to hold bla bla horse power, but i'd still be nervous. i'm not half as nervous in my sr.


damn it i said i wasnt goin to get into it.


i'm totally for ka-t. I would love to build one, but it wouldnt be a cheap build. i probably will end up building one within the next few years just for fun, but i am certain i will be more comfortable in my SR

[Photonic]

with all the problems ppl have had building ka-t's, i wouldnt feel comfortable building one unless i rebuilt the motor.

yeah yeah the motor is prooven to be able to hold bla bla horse power, but i'd still be nervous. i'm not half as nervous in my sr.


damn it i said i wasnt goin to get into it.


i'm totally for ka-t. I would love to build one, but it wouldnt be a cheap build. i probably will end up building one within the next few years just for fun, but i am certain i will be more comfortable in my SR

Im not talking about Blah Blah HP..just like 250 wheel. Which is superior to a stock SR for less of a price. I wouldn't push higher than 250 with a stock motor. Oh..and if you stay off the rev limiter Im sure it will run as reliably as your Used SR20.

[Andy C]

And i'm sick of the jdm fanboy comments. I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT JDM BULLSHIT. I JUST LIKE ACCELERATING FAST.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

i would only build one with a stock bottom end if the motor was excellent condition

[Andy C]

Im not talking about Blah Blah HP..just like 250 wheel. Which is superior to a stock SR for less of a price. I wouldn't push higher than 250 with a stock motor. Oh..and if you stay off the rev limiter Im sure it will run as reliably as your Used SR20.

I disagree.

that is all lol

[Jorgen]

I am building a stock KA-T. Ill let you know how it goes this summer.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

I am building a stock KA-T. Ill let you know how it goes this summer.

oh ya that rite

[Jorgen]

i just realized how wrong what i said was...
im "building" a stock KA-T... haha

[Photonic]

I disagree.

that is all lol

Not entirely..Revs are the biggest killer of KA's . The engine AND turbo efficiency with a T-25 drop off at pretty much the same spot..around 6500 ish and with the turbo being so spool happy on a 2.4 liter you will definitely stay in boost ^_^, and with the torque the KA makes theres not too much reason to push red line.

[Andy C]

i like revs.

Y dont u like revs?

[Jorgen]

i like revs

[Photonic]

i like revs.

Y dont u like revs?

I never said I didint like revs, The KA doesnt. Ive grown rather fond of torque. A friend of mine who has been building cars for ..20 years including SR's and KA's in multiple configurations says his Single Cam KA-T feels just like having a naturally aspirated V8 under his hood, but thats just what he enjoys. Its all about what you like..arguing which is "better" or "easier" is subjective.

[Andy C]

u should go sr. revs dont kill it. well not nearly as easily

[Jorgen]

how about i change my rev limiter to 5.5

[FlatWoodsMonster]

Not entirely..Revs are the biggest killer of KA's . The engine AND turbo efficiency with a T-25 drop off at pretty much the same spot..around 6500 ish and with the turbo being so spool happy on a 2.4 liter you will definitely stay in boost ^_^, and with the torque the KA makes theres not too much reason to push red line.

150% or nothing.


how about i change my rev limiter to 5.5

haha GM KA

[Memme]

Im not talking about Blah Blah HP..just like 250 wheel. Which is superior to a stock SR for less of a price. I wouldn't push higher than 250 with a stock motor. Oh..and if you stay off the rev limiter Im sure it will run as reliably as your Used SR20.


Yeah, that too...

[ThatS13Guy]

how many threads have already been made about this seriously?

[FlatWoodsMonster]

how many threads have already been made about this seriously?

81

[Jorgen]

one day, i really hope to see the KA win....

[Memme]

Cam over bucket FTW!

At least this time there's a section for it... Drama Section FTW!

These people are smart... :p :goodjob:

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[Jorgen]

930 posts... and no freakin incon when i hit 1000... :mad_pirate:

[Andy C]

how many threads have already been made about this seriously?

like 5million, but at least the op started this one in the Drama section.


930 posts... and no freakin incon when i hit 1000... :mad_pirate:
wrong section. we have a thread for this. go bump it in the sponsors lounge

[Jorgen]

:pirate:

[Photonic]

150% or nothing.



haha GM KA

Well I got a 15.6 from shifting at 6500....*shrug* but that was all 60 foot baby.

[driftORdrag]

IMO.. SR>KA but only to the point where the stock internals are at its limits with the KA.

but if we were talking about building both engines i would choose KA because at that point the fact that the SR can hold more power with stock internals is irrelevant. Since both motors would be built. Theoretically meaning they could handle the same power but still have the benefit of the torque the KA has over the SR.

[Jorgen]

^ very well said!

[Andy C]

yeah its like a monster truck. so much damn torque, i cant handle it.

[s7_]

You are all wrong.

KA-24DE-BT

[Iam99x]

I can pwn a SR20 with stock internals tuned at 13psi with my KA-T at 7.6psi. LOLOLOL

KA for drag. SR for drift.

[Andy C]

ok lets go

[Iam99x]

ok lets go

My S13 isn't boosted yet, but I'll hit you up for Commerce when it is.

Anyone have time slips?

This is me in the 1/8th at Eatonton. The track is slick as balls. First run I didn't warm up the tires and I spun the 1st-3rd with 18x9"s

RT: 0.753
60': 2.578
MPH: 79.79
ET: 9.366

Here's my vid of the first run. Only vid I have, unfortunately. Like I said...lots of no traction. :p

Shitty vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJl1-OKShUk

[white_s14]

sr20det is the easy way! would love to have a ka24det, but i love my bimmer more :)

[Iam99x]

sr20det is the easy way! Would love to have a ka24det, but i love my bimmer more :)

qft.

[Slip N Slide S14]

My S13 isn't boosted yet, but I'll hit you up for Commerce when it is.

Anyone have time slips?

This is me in the 1/8th at Eatonton. The track is slick as balls. First run I didn't warm up the tires and I spun the 1st-3rd with 18x9"s

RT: 0.753
60': 2.578
MPH: 79.79
ET: 9.366

Here's my vid of the first run. Only vid I have, unfortunately. Like I said...lots of no traction. :p

Shitty vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJl1-OKShUk

Dont post a vid of you runnin 9.3's and talk shit about an SR

With a stock turbo SR I have run 8.2's

[Iam99x]

Dont post a vid of you runnin 9.3's and talk shit about an SR

With a stock turbo SR I have run 8.2's

No traction.

They closed down that track because some guy spun out from no traction in a highly modded drag car a few weeks ago and got his legs cut off...now he's dead. That track is almost as bad as trying to launch in rain. Seriously.

[Slip N Slide S14]

No traction.

Tell that to the guy in the other lane that blew your doors off.

[Iam99x]

What? I'm in the closest lane. That's a Honda in the far lane...

[Slip N Slide S14]

What? I'm in the closest lane. That's a Honda in the far lane...


I was kidding my friend.

But Icoudla swore you said you would beat a Stock turbo SR with your KA-t setup.

[Iam99x]

I was kidding my friend.

But Icoudla swore you said you would beat a Stock turbo SR with your KA-t setup.

Oh.:p

I will.

[Memme]

What you mean will?

You has one... right?

[Iam99x]

What you mean will?

You has one... right?

Not any more. Remember the S14 that I gave you a ride in? That's the one in the video.

My S13 isn't boosted yet. It will be pretty soon I hope. If I can get some of my shit sold my F/S thread...

[Andy C]

My S13 isn't boosted yet, but I'll hit you up for Commerce when it is.

Anyone have time slips?

This is me in the 1/8th at Eatonton. The track is slick as balls. First run I didn't warm up the tires and I spun the 1st-3rd with 18x9"s

RT: 0.753
60': 2.578
MPH: 79.79
ET: 9.366

Here's my vid of the first run. Only vid I have, unfortunately. Like I said...lots of no traction. :p

Shitty vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJl1-OKShUk


i'm not sayin i'd win, but it would be fun. especially in the 1/4.

i gotta get some good tires and learn to launch, but we do need to have a 240atlanta drag day.

[AFSil80]

My S13 isn't boosted yet, but I'll hit you up for Commerce when it is.

Anyone have time slips?

This is me in the 1/8th at Eatonton. The track is slick as balls. First run I didn't warm up the tires and I spun the 1st-3rd with 18x9"s

RT: 0.753
60': 2.578
MPH: 79.79
ET: 9.366

You say track prep at Eatonton was the issue, yet you were running on 18's...

See where this is headed? And if you're on street tires, you don't really warm them up. You just spin them for a split second to clean them off. Doing a Duke Nukem burnout on street tires will only make things worse.

FWIW, I cut a 2.1 60' and made the same MPH with lower E/T at Twiggs with 4 year old 255/40/17 tires that were almost to the cord, not to mention the retardedly stiff coilovers I have on the car.

Again.

This CA18 owner 'el oh el's at SR and KA-T fanbois. Wussy lil CA18 bringin the pain against Mustangs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEvh8jJtoQ

[justjuiceit]

Dont post a vid of you runnin 9.3's and talk shit about an SR

With a stock turbo SR I have run 8.2's
Dude, thats like apples to oranges........ A N/A SR would not run 8.2s. I wanna see some people who have a turbo KA and know how to drag race post some times up. Then you can talk......

I am really considering a turbo with a KA just to for once and for all shut up everybody who thinks the SR is such a dominate motor.

Most of you fan boys could not cut a decent light if your life depended on it!

[Andy C]

I dont even know what "cut a decent light" means

i'm goin to assume its a drag racing term

[AFSil80]

'Cutting a decent light' refers to how fast you get the car moving when the green light hits.

Due to slow human reaction, on a sportsman tree, when the third yellow light comes on, you launch because by the time your brain says go, the green light is on.

Pro tree is a bit more difficult... ;)

Boostbeef needs to get in here and post his 'Top 10 Rules for the Drag Strip'

[Andy C]

yeah i wanna learn to drag race. i love doin it, but i've never really done it legally or known good technique.

and since i dont race on the streets at all anymore, i need to make it up to commerce

[AFSil80]

BoostBeef's Top 10 Rules for the Drag Strip:

http://www.maconracers.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8879

If you've EVER thought about drag racing, and don't wanna look like a tool on your first time in the lanes, CLICK THIS LINK.

Be sure to read white93gs-r's post on page 2.

[justjuiceit]

I meant to say cut a decent light/ 60 foot time, but I just got back from the company holiday party after multiple pitchers of beer! lol Anyway, Andy if you really want to learn how to drag race, we can hook up some time. I was trying to put together a drag school, but not too many people were interested.

[AFSil80]

Like I said, click the link!

VERY INFORMATIVE!

[Andy C]

BoostBeef's Top 10 Rules for the Drag Strip:

http://www.maconracers.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8879

If you've EVER thought about drag racing, and don't wanna look like a tool on your first time in the lanes, CLICK THIS LINK.

Be sure to read white93gs-r's post on page 2.

very helpful link. thanks!


I meant to say cut a decent light/ 60 foot time, but I just got back from the company holiday party after multiple pitchers of beer! lol Anyway, Andy if you really want to learn how to drag race, we can hook up some time. I was trying to put together a drag school, but not too many people were interested.

yeah i remember that. i think i said i would be interested, but i remember not too many ppl were. We can meet up in commerce in the spring some time. i look forward to it.

[justjuiceit]

Ok link, the reality is that at most tracks you never really hot lap..... What I used to for some of my cars was pull the a/c relay fuse and hit the a/c button. This kicks on both fans and helps cool the engine. I was data logging my SR and the fans did not come on until around 200 F.......with the fans on, they stayed at 185 F.

Also, for a N/A limited mod motor, you can hot lap all day, especially at night! While waiting 30 minutes might seem ok, just try to get back in line after cooling off for that long!

[tienanh4m]

ka more power compare the price of swap SR. Just take your old KA out and upgrade pistons/rings and change timing guide . 280hp should be every reliable .

[justjuiceit]

I will add to the tips......
1) Show up when the gates first open, you wanna get thru tech if they have it and get on the track as soon as they let you; as the night goes on the line gets longer and longer (most tracks you can get a lot of runs early on and for newbs, you can make runs without embarrassing yourself in front of people)
2) Get a copy of tech rules before you go
3) If you have never been to a drag race before, go once just to watch or at least watch a few passes to see how its done
4) If at all possible, do not run against a 11 second or faster car, not only do they destroy your morale, it also is very difficult to concentrate on a launch with your car vibrating violently from their engine!
5) Show up with about a half of tank of gas......do not run under a 1/4 of a tank, you may run into fuel starvation problems; unless you are going for some kind of record or something.
6) Have a friend come with you; he can store all the extra stuff like spare tire, jack, etc in their car; plus tools! Also, bring a few wrenches along!
7) Bring an air pump and a good gauge. Most tires hook up better with lower pressures. Some tracks do not have air, so its best to always bring your own!
8) Try different launch techniques.....N/A cars with heavy flywheels typically like dumps, while turbo cars usually like a bit slipping.
Also, do not worry too much about your reaction time when you first start racing, I would be more concerned with launches; unless you entered a bracket race! lol

[Iam99x]

i'm not sayin i'd win, but it would be fun. especially in the 1/4.

i gotta get some good tires and learn to launch, but we do need to have a 240atlanta drag day.

Yes, it would be fun!


You say track prep at Eatonton was the issue, yet you were running on 18's...

See where this is headed? And if you're on street tires, you don't really warm them up. You just spin them for a split second to clean them off. Doing a Duke Nukem burnout on street tires will only make things worse.

FWIW, I cut a 2.1 60' and made the same MPH with lower E/T at Twiggs with 4 year old 255/40/17 tires that were almost to the cord, not to mention the retardedly stiff coilovers I have on the car.

Again.

This CA18 owner 'el oh el's at SR and KA-T fanbois. Wussy lil CA18 bringin the pain against Mustangs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEvh8jJtoQ

Yes, 18"s. I had no form of camber adjustment, just dropped as low as I could. Super negative camber...The next day, I looked at the tires and it was obvious that I was only using the inner 1/2. Not to mention the tires were pretty worn out already AND had a high tread wear. A terrible thing, obviously.

My burnout wasn't anything crazy. About 3 seconds of tirespin.

Mustangs GT's and non supercharged Cobras have never been a problem for me.


Dude, thats like apples to oranges........ A N/A SR would not run 8.2s. I wanna see some people who have a turbo KA and know how to drag race post some times up. Then you can talk......

I am really considering a turbo with a KA just to for once and for all shut up everybody who thinks the SR is such a dominate motor.

Most of you fan boys could not cut a decent light if your life depended on it!

Hey, now. I know how to drag race! :)

The SR isn't a dominant motor. It does have lots of potential, though.


BoostBeef's Top 10 Rules for the Drag Strip:

http://www.maconracers.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8879

If you've EVER thought about drag racing, and don't wanna look like a tool on your first time in the lanes, CLICK THIS LINK.

Be sure to read white93gs-r's post on page 2.

That video was actually my very first time on a drag strip! :ddirtyd:

[justjuiceit]

Yes, it would be fun!



Yes, 18"s. I had no form of camber adjustment, just dropped as low as I could. .

Hey, now. I know how to drag race! :)

The SR isn't a dominant motor. It does have lots of potential, though.

I thought the rear camber was somewhat adjustable? Why do you have 18s for drag racing? Bigger is not always better!
lol I would beg to differ, 2.5 60 foots are abysmal at best! My bone stock 17.7 quarter mile Hardbody was pulling better 60 foots than that!

Every motor has potential with enough $$$$$$$$

[Iam99x]

I thought the rear camber was somewhat adjustable? Why do you have 18s for drag racing? Bigger is not always better!
lol I would beg to differ, 2.5 60 foots are abysmal at best! My bone stock 17.7 quarter mile Hardbody was pulling better 60 foots than that!

Every motor has potential with enought $$$$$$$$

It is, but no where near enough to compensate for what it was once I lowered the car. I had 18"s on there because I didn't want to mess up my daily's. I would never ever use those for "drag" wheels/tires.

I never bragged about my 60' times. I know they were shit due to all the crap I listed. Which aren't excuses...it's the truth.

I had fun to say the least. I pwned 350z's, S2000's, Mustangs...the list goes on and on. I enjoyed myself and can't wait to get my S13 boosted. Like I said, it will happen soon enough.

[djQ]

whats goin on in here??

[Z infidel]

whats goin on in here??

Where've you been?