Why does every negtive vendor review get deleted?

[Nick Jeezy]

ive noticed that every negtive vendor review gets deleted and is no where to be found.

I think that the thread should remain there, maybe be locked but should be able to be viewed.

They are there for people to see pros and cons of a shop. Not just all the good ones.


Im not just talking about Killswitch so dont take it offencive but i just noticed how the last thread is gone. Also with the JDM steve and the other Killswitch reviews.

If thats gonna happen then why have a review section?

[djQ]

i think every vendor review should be limited to original poster and vendor

[zcrew]

i agree with both. not sure if settings would allow, but it'd be nice to see if everyone got everything resolved when there is negative ones too.

[Decker]

ive noticed that every negtive vendor review gets deleted and is no where to be found.

I think that the thread should remain there, maybe be locked but should be able to be viewed.

They are there for people to see pros and cons of a shop. Not just all the good ones.


Im not just talking about Killswitch so dont take it offencive but i just noticed how the last thread is gone. Also with the JDM steve and the other Killswitch reviews.

If thats gonna happen then why have a review section?

I figured someone would bitch. I'm sure you're referring to the most recent Killswitch review (which I bet you enjoyed the hell out of). It was deleted per the OPs request. He asked for it to be deleted this morning.

As far as the other ones ... I honestly don't know. Threads are only deleted when the OP requests it.


i think every vendor review should be limited to original poster and vendor

I agree.

[TheChosenOne]

Awesome, vender threads are useful for future customers that want good service

[Devious Furlong]

x2, every bad one gets locked.

[Neejay]

x2, every bad one gets locked.
That's mainly from the off-topic and bitching/nagging that goes on in them.

[hks4life]

i think every vendor review should be limited to original poster and vendor

i agree with this idea

[Nick Jeezy]

I figured someone would bitch. I'm sure you're referring to the most recent Killswitch review (which I bet you enjoyed the hell out of). It was deleted per the OPs request. He asked for it to be deleted this morning.

As far as the other ones ... I honestly don't know. Threads are only deleted when the OP requests it.



I agree.

this is not me bitching, this is me pointing out something that is happening.

see thats why i said not trying to piss you guys off but i guess it did. i was refering to all of the bad thread. none of them are there.

well i guess since im not a killswitch lover then i have no say, but i was just pointing out something that happened. but if the person that posted it asked for it to be deleted then it should.

[leroiboy]

this is a good point. it also goes on in any other thread(its like some people feed on having power on a forum by deleting or threating infractions or whatnot).

[Jorgen]

I didnt ask so much as give permission. Either way I am glad its gone.
I knew things were going to get out of hand.

Tyler has agreed to work something out with me.
Pending this work, I will give a new review. I am really hoping its going to be a good one.

[FlyingStroke240]

These threads should be just left alone so future customers can use it as a guidance. besides that, everything else is BS.

[Nick Jeezy]

thats what im trying to say

[flip]

No vendor review threads should ever be deleted. Maybe there is a misunderstanding among our staff...

[FlyingStroke240]

No vendor review threads should ever be deleted. Maybe there is a misunderstanding among our staff...

That's right homie. tell them how it should done.:cheers:

[Kouki Krisp]

ive noticed that every negtive vendor review gets deleted and is no where to be found.

I think that the thread should remain there, maybe be locked but should be able to be viewed.

They are there for people to see pros and cons of a shop. Not just all the good ones.


Im not just talking about Killswitch so dont take it offencive but i just noticed how the last thread is gone. Also with the JDM steve and the other Killswitch reviews.

If thats gonna happen then why have a review section?

^x2 ..... it might help if regular peeps are kept out of the vendor review threads .... which might stop it from getting deleted

[down_shift]

i think every vendor review should be limited to original poster and vendor

agree. 3rd person seem to be the ones trashing up the threads with hearsay and stories of what happened to a friend of a friend.

[C.Ward]

hey so im not pointing fingers at anyone but if you post a new review then it will look like there was never a problem.the person looking at these reviews for reference will only see the positive review. defeating the purpose of writing the bad review in the first place. just because an issue is resolved doesnt mean it didnt happen.

[FlyingStroke240]

hey so im not pointing fingers at anyone but if you post a new review then it will look like there was never a problem.the person looking at these reviews for reference will only see the positive review. defeating the purpose of writing the bad review in the first place. just because an issue is resolved doesnt mean it didnt happen.

X2. Reviews should not be locked or deleted in 1st place. the 240atlanta staff needs to have a meeting and talk about this shit.:cheers:

[Iam99x]

Good thread.

[The Real Keith]

I think that anybody should be able to post on vendor review threads. But if it doesn't pertain to the original post, then don't post it. Stop spamming vendor reviews with pointless crap. Keep it on topic and it probably wont get deleted. Oh, and make sure if you are posting a review to give a reason. Not just, I don't recommend "so and so". Give a reason and explination.

[C.Ward]

X2. Reviews should not be locked or deleted in 1st place. the 240atlanta staff needs to have a meeting and talk about this shit.:cheers:

yupppp

[Nick Jeezy]

forsure. idk it just seemed pointless to have a vendor review about shops if all the bad ones were deleted. should have just posted up thier websites and called it quits.

but im glad i made this aware. hope it helps a new shoper.

[ahmonrah]

so i guess there should be a rule:

"ANY POSTS, WHETHER POSITIVE/NEGATIVE WITHIN THE VENDOR REVIEW SECTION SHALL REMAIN STRICTLY BETWEEN CUSTOMER AND SERVICE PROVIDER."

MEMBERS violating the rule shall be subject to (i'll let the mods come up with that penalty)

yeah, and i agree that every vendor review, past or present should be left, cleaned of unnecessary blabbering and remain visible for member review.

and i dont think it needs to be said....but fuck it.

ATTN: present/ potential clients of service providers(240atlanta VENDORS),

PRIOR to posting a negative review, ALL POSSIBLE means of RESOLUTION should be exhausted BEFORE announcing your REVIEW, should it be negative in nature.

that way, opportunity and realistic dialogue can be held privately between affected parties to resolve an issue.

this analogy is simple and is directly related:
if you go to a restaurant, order food and it's not to your liking or completely wrong, do you go screaming to FOX5 first? or simply tell the server the issue?

[Decker]

No vendor review threads should ever be deleted. Maybe there is a misunderstanding among our staff...

No. There's no misunderstanding. I made a thread in the admin/mod forum asking if it was okay, waited for more than a few hours, no one objected, so it got deleted.


this is not me bitching, this is me pointing out something that is happening.

see thats why i said not trying to piss you guys off but i guess it did. i was refering to all of the bad thread. none of them are there.

well i guess since im not a killswitch lover then i have no say, but i was just pointing out something that happened. but if the person that posted it asked for it to be deleted then it should.

I understand that you're pointing something out ... but as far as what I bolded, I don't think so. I firmly believe that you and a few others on here would perpetuate any negative talk or ideas about Killswitch for the sole purpose of fueling the fire and to favor the shop that you're attached to.

[jsta240]

the only person that should post in a review thread is the reviewer or another reviewer with th same opinion. if your review differs then start a new thread. the business being reviewed should answer and communicate through pm until the problem is solved, or there is a mutual disagreement. if the business being reviewed is posting then of course you are not gonna see them like "yeah i fucked up it was shitty", therefore they dont even need to post, all they should do is resolve the problem in hopes that the review is modified to show the outcome. NO SHOUT OUTS or STANDING UP FOR YOU SHOP.

[Cool Cat Racing]

Personally I feel any review either bad or good should always be there and if a resolution was made then it should be explained in the original thread, if not then that too should be explained. I also feel that any vendor having moderator status in that section is a direct conflict of interest and shouldn't be allowed. A thread about a shop being deleted by a moderator who works/owns the shop in question, though it may have been asked for, does pose some questions and looks bad either way. If we are to have a valid reviews section it must be moderated by someone who isn't directly affiliated with a vendor and any thread, either good or bad must remain for people to see. And everyone who is not directly associated with the work in question should stay out of the thread and this is the only thing the moderators should take care of, no more cleaning up what was said or deleting parts of what the person said.

[FlatWoodsMonster]

dick riders

[Elizabeth Reed]

it's killswitch of gtfo!

[The Real Keith]

No. There's no misunderstanding. I made a thread in the admin/mod forum asking if it was okay, waited for more than a few hours, no one objected, so it got deleted.



I understand that you're pointing something out ... but as far as what I bolded, I don't think so. I firmly believe that you and a few others on here would perpetuate any negative talk or ideas about Killswitch for the sole purpose of fueling the fire and to favor the shop that you're attached to.

Wow thats harsh to say. So your saying that he made this thread so that the bad rep about Killswitch would stop getting deleted?

He was just trying to point out a fact which you yourself thinks is a good idea.

[FlyingStroke240]

Personally I feel any review either bad or good should always be there and if a resolution was made then it should be explained in the original thread, if not then that too should be explained. I also feel that any vendor having moderator status in that section is a direct conflict of interest and shouldn't be allowed. A thread about a shop being deleted by a moderator who works/owns the shop in question, though it may have been asked for, does pose some questions and looks bad either way. If we are to have a valid reviews section it must be moderated by someone who isn't directly affiliated with a vendor and any thread, either good or bad must remain for people to see. And everyone who is not directly associated with the work in question should stay out of the thread and this is the only thing the moderators should take care of, no more cleaning up what was said or deleting parts of what the person said.



I agree with you Ryan. You should not be a moderator period if you are affiliated with any of the vendors. The thread should not have been deleted in 1st place. We need to get this shit straight.:thinking:

[J Squared]

Dude, mellow out on the bb code. We can hear you just fine :goodjob:

[FlyingStroke240]

Dude, mellow out on the bb code. We can hear you just fine :goodjob:

haha, for some reason i got a habit of doing da.:wavey:

[J Squared]

No worries :)

[MOOREOFSTEPHEN]

it sucks to see the shops get bad reviews but it should NOT be deleted... that defeats the purpose???????????????????????????????

yes, locked I can understad with idiots fucking the thread up but deleted never.

Just doesn't make since for anyone... any shop... any thread... In fact if anyone knows Tyler as good as I do he will be more then glad to turn this negative outcome postive because hes a great guy... give it time.

[Decker]

Wow thats harsh to say. So your saying that he made this thread so that the bad rep about Killswitch would stop getting deleted?

no. not saying that at all.

[Nick Jeezy]

No. There's no misunderstanding. I made a thread in the admin/mod forum asking if it was okay, waited for more than a few hours, no one objected, so it got deleted.



I understand that you're pointing something out ... but as far as what I bolded, I don't think so. I firmly believe that you and a few others on here would perpetuate any negative talk or ideas about Killswitch for the sole purpose of fueling the fire and to favor the shop that you're attached to.

in some cases yes. when carina says im trying to sell stuff of his that i stole? thats complete bullshit. i dont not steal. let alone be a dumbass and try to sell it on the fourm hes on. causing people to not wanna buy from me thinking that its stolen. which i know of one case right now.

http://240atlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24214&page=3
for example.

but thats not why i posted this thread. you make it sound like a bad thing. no its not.

i just happened to notice it with the bad recient one.

along with the jdm one, altho hes banded but its not there. or when tyler sold the rb-23 to josh. with the 20 tranny and the 20 crank and 20 harness and he paid for a 25 with a 25 tranny.
thats also gone.
but im very glad that i brought this to attention.

[flip]

X2. Reviews should not be locked or deleted in 1st place. the 240atlanta staff needs to have a meeting and talk about this shit.:cheers:

This was done well before this thread existed...


I think that anybody should be able to post on vendor review threads. But if it doesn't pertain to the original post, then don't post it. Stop spamming vendor reviews with pointless crap. Keep it on topic and it probably wont get deleted. Oh, and make sure if you are posting a review to give a reason. Not just, I don't recommend "so and so". Give a reason and explination.

Thats the idea but its hard to keep under control. At first I didn't want to delete posts since as soon as you do, everyone thinks that someone is trying to sway the thread in one direction or another. If you don't delete any, it gets cluttered as hell.

I've just decided to clean them out since I'm unbiased...


forsure. idk it just seemed pointless to have a vendor review about shops if all the bad ones were deleted. should have just posted up thier websites and called it quits.

but im glad i made this aware. hope it helps a new shoper.

Bad ones aren't deleted. I don't understand why everyone is getting the idea that all bad vendor reviews get deleted. They're all still there.

[Nick Jeezy]

well im sorry then. i just was trying to look for the last 45 days and none were there. i guess it was before that.

well im just glad its sorted out.

[is300t]

I say everyone stop being a baby and take what you get. If you get neg review, well then thats what happened's and thats what it should stay. stop deleting only the bad ones towards your shop. you made a mistake and people are telling why. thats what this forum is for!! So everyone just needs to calm down and do some SLIDING!!! nuff said

[J Squared]

http://punditkitchen.wordpress.com/files/2008/05/political-pictures-barack-obama-jcpenny.jpg

[mercrod]

I agree with you Ryan. You should not be a moderator period if you are affiliated with any of the vendors. The thread should not have been deleted in 1st place. We need to get this shit straight.:thinking:


x2... And this is very true in the red. If you own, work at, or are sponsored by a shop then you should not be a moderator.

[Innocent-s13]

yes yes so true the words spoken from jeezys fingers lol

[Decker]

x2... And this is very true in the red. If you own, work at, or are sponsored by a shop then you should not be a moderator.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but in my defense ... I disagree. Unless it's something blatantly obvious that needs to be removed, I don't moderate threads that have to do with our shop (or any shop reviews for that matter). I leave it to the other guys. I'm aware that this could cause a lot of bitching and moaning. As long as Flip knows that I'm honest and have integrity, then that's all that matters. When I moderate, I remain very unbiased and I think that's obvious to the other mods.

[Slip N Slide S14]

Bad ones aren't deleted. I don't understand why everyone is getting the idea that all bad vendor reviews get deleted. They're all still there.

Actually I have seen several bad vendor reviews deleted from more than one vendor. They are not all still there.

But, I agree, the vendor section here is a joke and needs work.

Conflict of interest
Most are off-topic because instead of deleting the stupid post by stupid people the thread gets locked which solves nothing
Nothing ever gets settled
and some threads are getting deleted.

[flip]

I do have a policy that shop owners can not be 240Atlanta staff and I generally wouldn't pick someone that works at a shop to be a mod. It does get tricky when someone that has been a great help to the site for a long time goes to work for a shop. I make sure that everything is still modded fairly which is still the case with all of my mods here...

[flip]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but in my defense ... I disagree. Unless it's something blatantly obvious that needs to be removed, I don't moderate threads that have to do with our shop (or any shop reviews for that matter). I leave it to the other guys. I'm aware that this could cause a lot of bitching and moaning. As long as Flip knows that I'm honest and have integrity, then that's all that matters. When I moderate, I remain very unbiased and I think that's obvious to the other mods.

Correct...


Actually I have seen several bad vendor reviews deleted from more than one vendor. They are not all still there.

But, I agree, the vendor section here is a joke and needs work.

Conflict of interest
Most are off-topic because instead of deleting the stupid post by stupid people the thread gets locked which solves nothing
Nothing ever gets settled
and some threads are getting deleted.

I will go back and make sure there are no deleted vendor review threads myself.

[mercrod]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but in my defense ... I disagree. Unless it's something blatantly obvious that needs to be removed, I don't moderate threads that have to do with our shop (or any shop reviews for that matter). I leave it to the other guys. I'm aware that this could cause a lot of bitching and moaning. As long as Flip knows that I'm honest and have integrity, then that's all that matters. When I moderate, I remain very unbiased and I think that's obvious to the other mods.

I dont have a problem with you and I am not saying that you are not a honest person. I trust Flips choices with picking mods. I am just saying it can make for some sticky situations when things like this happen. Its not an opinion, its fact.

[flip]

I dont have a problem with you and I am not saying that you are not a honest person. I trust Flips choices with picking mods. I am just saying it can make for some sticky situations when things like this happen. Its not an opinion, its fact.

You are correct :).

[Nick Jeezy]

MOTHER FUCKING BUMP!


PT my FACE!

[C.Ward]

bump!! but!!!! DECKER NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HIS POST BECAUSE IT WILL LOOK WEIRD TO NEW PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW HE CHANGED SHOPS

[Keith]

bump!! but!!!! DECKER NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HIS POST BECAUSE IT WILL LOOK WEIRD TO NEW PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW HE CHANGED SHOPS

just because he doesnt work there anymore, doesnt mean the feeling isnt still the same

[C.Ward]

oh i know that! just for new people i dont want them to think he is talking about top speed. but thanks .

[Cameron.]

party over?

[C.Ward]

nooo hahaha

[Casey]

MOTHER FUCKING BUMP!


PT my FACE!

well, basically a vendor review will be deleted for a couple reasons.

1 if the op requests it.
2 if there wasnt an issue and the op was just kicking dirt.

we leave others around if it was resolved and what not. but honestly, when an issue is resolved usually the op requests it to be deleted to begin with.


bump!! but!!!! DECKER NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HIS POST BECAUSE IT WILL LOOK WEIRD TO NEW PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW HE CHANGED SHOPS

lol i see what you did thur

it could be confusing.

[J Squared]

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[C.Ward]

ahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhaahaha

[babowc]

We still don't like to delete the threads.
We can close them, but we prefer not to delete them.

In some cases, it seems, the thread goes out of context completely or bystanders get involved and we have to do something about the thread.

[Timmy22]

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[s7_]

I know of a few that got de-reted.

[Memme]

Certain peoples threads should never be deleted.

To show their character, or lack thereof.

I have only ever been burned by one seller on here. And he's no longer on here... because of his own actions against our community.

That's how that works.