my s14 ka-t v.s. acura nsx

[tmitch17]

well it was a sunny day after school and im cruisn down 78 towards stone mountain when, in my rear view, i see this baller car flying up the road. it was silver, slamed to the ground, n had to be one of the cleanist nsx i have ever seen (which isnt many :goodjob:). anyways i drop 4th and punch it. we start to even out then i pulled on him. then again. so we lined them up and we are off for real. 3rd 4th 5th we go screaming down the highway. i glance at the speedo n it reads an inch past 120mph :eeek:! what a rush. at any rate i got him by about 2-3 cars. hard to till sometimes when youre out in front :cheers: anyways if that guy reads this i just want you to know that i loved your car n it was clean as hell :p

[Neejay]

What are your specs?

[tmitch17]

What are your specs?

350 whp and 350 tourqe at 12psi with a sliping clutch (its stock). after i fix that (stage 3 comptech and light weight flywheel) it should be something like 400whp.

[GeNo]

O_o what you got done... lol im only making 235WHP on stock sr turbo @ 12 psi...

[tmitch17]

O_o what you got done... lol im only making 235WHP on stock sr turbo @ 12 psi...


i have....
Wiseco Pistons
Total Seal Rings
Clevite Bearings
Crower Rods
Cometic Head Gasket
ARP Head and Main Studs
GT30R Custom Turbo Kit
Front Mount
Custom Magnaflow Exhaust
AEM Stand Alone ECU
550cc injectors
3 bar map
:graypirate:

[swidewayz]

what color was this nsx?

[corday]

nice kill.
how hard was it to make 350? and how much did it hurt your pocket?
i wanna go KA-t. and make high 3's to mid 4's

[babowc]

I have to call bs on this.
LOL

how is your stock clutch holding 350ftlb? even with it slipping?

lies until proooooof!

[Memme]

O_o what you got done... lol im only making 235WHP on stock sr turbo @ 12 psi...

Yeah lol, that's the difference between a T3 and a T25...

[Infinite]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s195/cop982002/shenanigans7sy.jpg

[doctorsars]

I have to call bs on this.
LOL

how is your stock clutch holding 350ftlb? even with it slipping?

lies until proooooof!
This.

[Memme]

nice kill.
how hard was it to make 350? and how much did it hurt your pocket?
i wanna go KA-t. and make high 3's to mid 4's


You can make 350 rwhp relatively cheap if you know what you need, and don't pay retail, and do your own labor... I would say I'll have a 350rwhp capable setup, parts cost ~ 1,200... and $300 of that is the Calum / or EMance... The parts aren't that expensive.

However, the parts he listed are expensive... and why would you spend all that fucking money, and have a stock clutch?

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!!!!?!?!11/1!?? :lmfao::goodjob: :thinking:

More money than sense? AEM Standalone, GT30, BUILT MOTOR... oh, stock clutch...

LOL WUT?

I'd call BS just based on that parts list including a stock clutch.

[corday]

oh ok. i kinda have an idea of what i need. i just need to get someone to make a list for me of exactly what i need. and i planned to do my own labor anyways.

and yea thats pretty dumb to run that much power with a stock clutch.

[~The_Duke~]

The NSX only makes 290 (estimated 240ish whp) at the crank...

If he is making ~350whp the NSX would have to be modded and weight reduced to win.

[Memme]

oh ok. i kinda have an idea of what i need. i just need to get someone to make a list for me of exactly what i need. and i planned to do my own labor anyways.

and yea thats pretty dumb to run that much power with a stock clutch.


You need:

Fuel:

Fuel injectors. ~550's
Some kind of Tuned ECU


Air:

MAF, if N60 will do 350, cheaper. Not sure.
T3 turbo or hybrid.
Inlet/Outlet
Manifold.
Downpipe
Catback would be good.
FMIC kit

Motor:
Tapped pan
T-Oil line splitter
Oil Filter sandwich plate thing
.063 Oil restrictor
Oil lines
Coolant Lines
Oil cooler (not a bad idea)

Misc:
Gauges
Gaskets
CLUTCH
Anything else I'm forgetting...

I have a build thread on KA-T... my parts are capable of 350rwhp... and I spend ~$700, not counting Fuel Management (the ECU.) I still need a custom down-pipe though... because I'm not using a T25.

[tienanh4m]

NSX make at least 240HP to wheel i'm sure. I've tested covertte , new mustang 5.0 , Camerro SS , g35..... . The fastest car i ever drove is the NSX. The NSX is slower than Covertte 6 speed but somehow i got the feeling it faster. Remember NSX VTEC the readline at 8000 RPM there is no way your 350HP 240sx will pull it on Highway even with Good clutch. Horse power is count but gears ratio is important as well. That why NSX got 210 Ft torque but it fast.

[corday]

You need:

Fuel:

Fuel injectors. ~550's
Some kind of Tuned ECU


Air:

MAF, if N60 will do 350, cheaper. Not sure.
T3 turbo or hybrid.
Inlet/Outlet
Manifold.
Downpipe
Catback would be good.
FMIC kit

Motor:
Tapped pan
T-Oil line splitter
Oil Filter sandwich plate thing
.063 Oil restrictor
Oil lines
Coolant Lines
Oil cooler (not a bad idea)

Misc:
Gauges
Gaskets
CLUTCH
Anything else I'm forgetting...

I have a build thread on KA-T... my parts are capable of 350rwhp... and I spend ~$700, not counting Fuel Management (the ECU.) I still need a custom down-pipe though... because I'm not using a T25.


oh ok cool.
i just found this amsperformance.com
is it a bad idea to go through them?

[Memme]

oh ok cool.
i just found this amsperformance.com
is it a bad idea to go through them?

Piece together your own kit. Much cheaper.

[~The_Duke~]

NSX make at least 240HP to wheel i'm sure. I've tested covertte , new mustang 5.0 , Camerro SS , g35..... . The fastest car i ever drove is the NSX. The NSX is slower than Covertte 6 speed but somehow i got the feeling it faster. Remember NSX VTEC the readline at 8000 RPM there is no way your 350HP 240sx will pull it on Highway even with Good clutch. Horse power is count but gears ratio is important as well. That why NSX got 210 Ft torque but it fast.

Gearing yes is important, IMO I think it would be a very close race between the 2.

[Memme]

NSX make at least 240HP to wheel i'm sure. I've tested covertte , new mustang 5.0 , Camerro SS , g35..... . The fastest car i ever drove is the NSX. The NSX is slower than Covertte 6 speed but somehow i got the feeling it faster. Remember NSX VTEC the readline at 8000 RPM there is no way your 350HP 240sx will pull it on Highway even with Good clutch. Horse power is count but gears ratio is important as well. That why NSX got 210 Ft torque but it fast.

LOL... 350 WHP KA-T can't pull on an NSX?

NSX weighs more, and has significantly less power...

You so crazy. :screwy:

VTAK < Math.

Gearing from 70-120 is irrelevant... You're in 5th gear in the KA-T... and you're in the sweet spot.

NSX could win a top speed challenge, but that's it.

^^ TRUFF

[~The_Duke~]

LOL... 350 WHP KA-T can't pull on an NSX?

NSX weighs more, and has significantly less power...

You so crazy. :screwy:


VTAK < Math.

You fail to take into account that the NSX's gearing is far better than the KA-T

2-4th will prolly eat you alive.

No doubt it would be a close race, but I do think the KA-T has the advantage.

[Elizabeth Reed]

naw man my element beat both of them

[~The_Duke~]

naw man my element beat both of them

You got one of them elements with the NSX conversion dont you? lol :ddirtyd:

[Elizabeth Reed]

nah. awd supercharged

[~The_Duke~]

nah. awd supercharged

Damn that shit is no joke...

[Elizabeth Reed]

lol

[Memme]

You fail to take into account that the NSX's gearing is far better than the KA-T

2-4th will prolly eat you alive.

No doubt it would be a close race, but I do think the KA-T has the advantage.

That matters more from a dig, or slow roll though...

If the KA is already in 5th in the 3K+ area of the power band... KA FTW.

[~The_Duke~]

That matters more from a dig, or slow roll though...

If the KA is already in 5th in the 3K+ area of the power band... KA FTW.

Not really.

An 04 mustang GT with ~235whp and 255tq should be able to walk my ass, but my gearing and their lack of good gearing makes me win.

[Memme]

nah. awd supercharged

Not factory lol

[Elizabeth Reed]

haha im jk. i wish though, but not really its my dd

[Memme]

Not really.

An 04 mustang GT with ~235whp and 255tq should be able to walk my ass, but my gearing and their lack of good gearing makes me win.

That's less of a difference in power though, and they're fat asses...

The KA-T has the power, and the weight advantage...

NSX; 3066 lb with MT, and we'll give it 240rwhp... fine: P/W 12.775
KA-T, 2754lbs with 350rwhp... P/W 7.86
Adding weight for a turbo kit... let's say 2825 lbs... P/W 8.07

Gearing can't be THAT bad on the KAT... I know it's not the best, but still... the numbers are big in favor of the KAT...

NSX gearing > significant P/W advantage? Umm.... I doubt it.


haha im jk. i wish though, but not really its my dd


I figured you must've been because they call it an "SC" but that doesn't mean what we wish it did... and the "SC" is a 2wd...

[Elizabeth Reed]

lol i know that

[~The_Duke~]

That's less of a difference in power though, and they're fat asses...

The KA-T has the power, and the weight advantage...

NSX; 3066 lb with MT, and we'll give it 240rwhp... fine: P/W 12.775
KA-T, 2754lbs with 350rwhp... P/W 7.86
Adding weight for a turbo kit... let's say 2825 lbs... P/W 8.07

Gearing can't be THAT bad on the KAT... I know it's not the best, but still... the numbers are big in favor of the KAT...

NSX gearing > significant P/W advantage? Umm.... I doubt it.

The 5 spd gearing for that tranny is pretty crapy dude... lol

It would be a good race due to the gearing differences...

You are assuming as well that the NSX was bone ass stock. Those things could see as much as a 15-20whp increase from just a CAI...

wiki says NSX curb weight is 2950...

[Memme]

Yeah, I'm assuming it was stock... because he supposedly won, but that's not even real, so this is all theory.

Carpoint says 3066... that's not the last gen I'm looking at though... 1999.

[Elizabeth Reed]

what....?

[Memme]

Just KA-T PWNS all... that is all. :goodjob:

It's the most powerful engine ever made of all known types of engines including rocket engines... It could probably power a supertanker to the sun... way faster than the speed of light, despite known problems with infinite mass and the speed of light.

Einstein didn't take into account the KA-T.

That's where he fucked up.

What a stupid Jew. LOL

[~The_Duke~]

Just KA-T PWNS all... that is all. :goodjob:

It's the most powerful engine ever made of all known types of engines including rocket engines... It could probably power a supertanker to the sun... way faster than the speed of light, despite known problems with infinite mass and the speed of light.

Einstein didn't take into account the KA-T.

That's where he fucked up.

What a stupid Jew. LOL

QR25DET will pwn a KA-T hands down...

[babowc]

OK stfu about your damn gearing debate.

get hard proof and come back with gearing ratios and whatever math you need to figure out what is faster.

even then there's driver skill involved.


I just want to know what the OP's response would be.

[~The_Duke~]

OK stfu about your damn gearing debate.

get hard proof and come back with gearing ratios and whatever math you need to figure out what is faster.

even then there's driver skill involved.

I just want to know what the OP's response would be.

You are such a buzz kill mike... lol

[Memme]

QR25DET will pwn a KA-T hands down...


No way man...

The QR25DET doesn't even exist. It's like unobtanium. Alchemy doesn't work.

That's like saying She-Ra could totally beat Batman's ass... She's not even in the same dimension! She's 2D! And she's He-Man's bitch...

Besides... everyone knows that you can't use a QR for space travel. It's absolutely unsuitable.

[djQ]

QR25DET will pwn a KA-T hands down...


wanna put some money on it?

[Wes]

wanna put some money on it?


Oh shit!

[~The_Duke~]

wanna put some money on it?

I dont since I dont have a QR25DET to put money on... lol

Let my buddy matt finish his setup and he might lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw_YgL4INJ8

^ QR25DET rapage.

[skanknastys13]

i mean really..if this guy has/had 350 tq on a stock clutch, it would have blown out..
ok lets say he has a stage 4 unsprung...if hes in a straight line (and can drive worth half a damn), he may have a chance..I have personally seen nsx's drive on the road, and on road atlanta. it would take one hell of a 240 to beat an nsx in any sort of drivers race.
Nsx's are not made to go fast straight, they are made to go fast, always... remember that when racing a SUPERCAR..and yes there is a honda that classifies as a supercar

[sullen]

hmmm... you have 350hp on a stock clutch...?
i don't know that that is possible. and if it's slipping, i don't know that you can drive boost on it anyways. it would just slip to redline. so... you can drive on it, but that would be a retarded NSX driver, or bullshit. or the NSX driver was playing with you, and you didn't bother to post the part where he owned your asshole.

[Memme]

wanna put some money on it?


LOL PWNT! :goodjob:

[Iam99x]

I say...

Take this race to where it counts.

1/4 mile...

OP>NSX

[whatever210]

i say race the nsx on a road course with some sharp corners and see who wins. nsx is overated power wise but handle like a dream. they have great power dont get me wrong but if im gunna pay that much for a car i think it should have a little more power than what it comes with.

[~The_Duke~]

i say race the nsx on a road course with some sharp corners and see who wins. nsx is overated power wise but handle like a dream. they have great power dont get me wrong but if im gunna pay that much for a car i think it should have a little more power than what it comes with.

That is because the NSX as a proper engine position...

[Memme]

R8 FTW...

Proper engine position, AND power, AND awesome handling...

[SB-Autoworks]

rwd del sol would take the nsx anyday!!!! :gay:

[Infinite]

i hope you mean lovefab's midengine del sol

[swidewayz]

WHat color was the freaking car? and i don't care if he was putting down 350. If he raced the silver 1 in atl with lovefab on the side he is total bs because i would love for him to come race it again.

[jiminycricket]

I ran stock clutch for a while until it went completely. I was @9 psi on stock internals though, with a .50 trim T3/T04 and every derestricted thing to go with that. So I guess I was making between 240-255 tq around then? now I have no idea lol. But the stock clutch never slipped once! not even in 1st or 2nd!

now I have a RPS stage 3 clutch. And it pwns slippage, only downside is that my left calf muscle is twice as big as my right hahaa

[fc3s13]

tried toying with r8 the other day in the FC and he was a vag

[dhumps]

nsx would loose to a 350hp 240 all day.

[Impetus]

Yeah lol, that's the difference between a T3 and a T25...


your sig flashes too fast. what the hell is that?

[tienanh4m]

The nsx loose because he can't drive. The 240SX Guy changing gears while NSX stilling going Reline 8000 rpm . For 290 Hp Vtec is not much. Those people who never test drive one. Maybe went to your local dealer and test drive. Who know they might let you try they 80k car if they got one i hope.

[jiminycricket]

That matters more from a dig, or slow roll though...

If the KA is already in 5th in the 3K+ area of the power band... KA FTW.

I've had plenty of people learn that ;)

[Innocent-s13]

no i say tmitch doesnt know what hes taslking about because he got the car the way it was. He doesnt know much about it and theres no way he is hitting 350 both ways trq and hspwr on a KA-t come on guys. I dont think he beat a NSX either

[Devious Furlong]

Bullshit.

[s7_]

nsx is just a regular v6...my friend has a 91 nsx, black...its quick but its only like 280whp in a 3000 lb car....if he says he can run a nsx then maybe he can......


...where's the vid? :)

[merna]

well sounds nice.

[Volcom240sx]

woohoo ka-t!

[osiriskidd]

this reminds me of the time my mexican friend bought a 2004 civic LX. came home and bragged about how he beat a skyline. this was back in 06 btw, before the 09 skyline was even mentioned.

[s7_]

^^^ lol wutt

[Blu]

I dont since I dont have a QR25DET to put money on... lol

Let my buddy matt finish his setup and he might lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw_YgL4INJ8

^ QR25DET rapage.

also its an sr... oh wait i have one of them too :) lol. mines an s15 motor though.... btw tell your friend congradulations on turboin the se-r, in the process of doing that for someone now.....