heyhey

[osiriskidd]

i'm new to the 240scene, but ever since i drove my friend's s13, i've been in love.

moving on, i know that kouki and zenki are differences in age, but can someone explain this in more depth to me please?
and SE / LX
and ill also be in the market for a s14 in the near future :yes:

[hellfire]

Zenki (Japanese meaning Earlier) is the 95-96.
Has round headlights, and ugly tail lights.

Kouki (Meaning Later) is 97-98
Has agressive headlights. And badass tail lights. ;)

Much fewer Kouki's were made then anything else. (Besides '94 Verts.)

SE means 5 lug, instead of 4. Sometimes sunroof. And stock VLSD.

LE has leather, and the features of SE I believe.

Tyler

[JDM Steve]

hey welcome to the site, i think Tyler summed that up for you.

[osiriskidd]

i see. thanks a lot.

i guess ill be on the lookout for an LE then.

also, how much would the auto-manuel cost, because i saw a few 96-98 240's on sale.

and i was told that you could get a zenki and jsut do headlight and tailight conversion, is this true?

[JDM Steve]

yea u can swap front ends it just bolts on... but u need the kouki bumper as well.

[osiriskidd]

i see. does the AUTO to MANUEL swap just about the same as an s13 would?

[JDM Steve]

yup

[hellfire]

I can do the Auto to Manual swap for you if you wish. Click link in sig.

Also, its not as easy as just bolting the headlights up. Taillights yes, but not the headlights.

The Kouki Headlights need the Kouki Bumper support. And you will also need that to use the kouki front bumper.

Tyler

[down_shift]

welcome to the board. the zenki to kouki conversion has been widely discussed. so just google it and you will find some well done how to / write ups. My advice is to read A LOT. most questions can be answeed on this and other boards by using the search function. Good luck finding a ride.

[carlova78]

hey whats up

[Hammerhead-i Eaglethrust]

Just to clarify, what hellfire said is only true of the S14s as far as the 5 lug part goes. No S13s (at least in the US) were made with 5 lugs. 5 lug swaps are available for all 240's. I know you are interested in an S14, but thought you could use the info anyway.

Also, I haven't seen too many LE's and the one I did see I thought was loaded, yet had 4 lugs... I don't know.

If you buy a base model autmatic, here are some things to consider:
-about $500 in parts on average for manual swap
-about $400-$600 for 5 lug swap parts (new), plus brake rotors and wheels
-base models don't have rear sway bar (I just found this out from Viperbite, lol)
-interiors (at least on the 95s) are plainer and have black base guages instead of white
-SE front lip will run you $50-$200
-SE foglights will run ???
Best to look for an SE unless you plan on modding the hell out of it, or unless you find some excellent deals.
All S14s have power windows and doorlocks (not so with S13s), some have factory lsd's (regardless of base or SE)
95's and 96's have different grills, the 96 is sexier, the 95 grill can be thrown away.

I could go on all day if you want.

[osiriskidd]

i already knew about the manuel swap and the 5lug swap being around there, but some of that stuff's pretty interesting.

but i infact DO intend to mod the car out my ass. currently with my 01accord coupe i can't do what i want because it's my dd.

as soon as i find the right car though, :D

continue if you like, i'm always down for learning more about things that interest me.

[down_shift]

not all SEs have vsld, my 96 came with an open diff and no sunroof. no sunroof is a plus in my opinion because of better clearence. plus no leaks. 96 antennas dont retract when off, 95 do.

[Zane98S14]

not all SEs have vsld, my 96 came with an open diff and no sunroof. no sunroof is a plus in my opinion because of better clearence. plus no leaks. 96 antennas dont retract when off, 95 do.

He beat me too it. The SE's only have VLSD's IF the original buyer selected the ABS/VLSD check box. There are insanely few from what i've found. Easy way to check is pop the hood and look in the fuse box to the left of the motor lookin from the front. On the top it'll tell you where the ABS fuse is, if you have it you have a LSD. If you can find one get it, if not put one in, i think they make all the difference in the world. Neither of my SE's had VLSD's (i put one in my kouki). I apologize if this is wrong but everything i've read points to this. When i originally bought mine i was under the impression that SE=lsd and was sadly mistaken.

[Hammerhead-i Eaglethrust]

hmm where do I start? I was surprised at what would be compatible between S13s and S14s and what was not. Obviously, engines and trannys are, but suspension pieces are not. Most everything on the chassis and interior is not, except for the seats. That may be totally useless.

umm.. What are you planning to do with the car? I guess I am running out of useless trivia.

[Slow Mo]

hey welcome! and hope you find the info that you need...:goodjob:

[down_shift]

He beat me too it. The SE's only have VLSD's IF the original buyer selected the ABS/VLSD check box. There are insanely few from what i've found.

Yeah the more I find out about the 14s the more I realize mine is definatley in the minority. I guess it makes sense that a buyer who choose an SE would want the abs/vsld package and sunroof. fully loaded. I dont know what my cars original buyer was thinking but Im glad they did.

[osiriskidd]

okay, after a discussion with my long time friend, and someone who's been in the car scene longer than i have, he's told me:

-go for 95, their KA is faster
-None of the OBDII bs = any engine + ecu (as long as it passes)
-SE cuz 600 is too much for some hubs
-95 SE cuz you can just do cosmetics later
-vq35de engine so you can pass emissions and rape face
-leather's not much of an problem because of swaps, and cloth is better (sometimes. i think black on black is teh bomb.. if its properly taken care of)

i guess it'll all come down to whatever i have the funds for x]

[down_shift]

yes get a 95
5 spd and SE saves a lot of hassle unless you handy and get a really good deal.
faster ka? no but some years had "hotter" cams
OBII = no swaps in emmision areas
looks worry about later
cloth > leather

[Zane98S14]

Yeah the more I find out about the 14s the more I realize mine is definatley in the minority. I guess it makes sense that a buyer who choose an SE would want the abs/vsld package and sunroof. fully loaded. I dont know what my cars original buyer was thinking but Im glad they did.

Well since the S14 was marketed to women primarily from what i understand (not to mention both of mine came from women), the sunroof is a must have but for the most part they wouldn't know or care anything about LSD's.

[Hammerhead-i Eaglethrust]

Yeah I guess I wasn't clear about the lsd's, what I was trying to say was that I didn't see a pattern of which S14s had lsd's because I've seen them on base's and SE's regardless of options, yet most 240s I come across don't have one at all.

Check Importnut.net and ka24development.com for writeups on which factory lsds from other nissans will work and how to install them.

If you find a car with leather, it will be torn or worn. Just get a car and if you want leather, find a good upholstry shop.

Of all the engine swaps I know of, vq35de would be one of the hardest, at least from what I can see. VQ35swap.com (?? I think that is the sight??) would have more info on that and they sell kits. We talked to a guy from there at formulad and he said that you need about $1300 worth of stuff plus the motor to do one of those swaps. I guess it may not be hard, once you have all the right stuff, but still seems foreign to me at this point. But, with 287 hp naturally aspirated in a lighter body, it should kick ass.

SR's = easy, cheap, and reliable. It's garden variety, but tried and true, and as long as you're not looking to impress everybody, will make you a fun car. Probably more reliable than a KA. I never heard of a turbo'd KA that didn't blow up(I might get flamed for that, but it's just my opinion).

RB's = badass. period. I don't know about reliability, but they just sound and look cool as hell. RB26's (skyline GTR motor) are prohibitively expensive for most of us but the rb25s and rb20's (lesser skyline motor) will do just fine. In fact the 20 usually only runs about a grand or so for the motor set.

[DeadDoc]

I4 or V6 accord?

[hellfire]

Most info I read was correct. Except..

Suspension is the same partly. Front shocks/springs are interchangable.

You can use S14 LCA's on an S13.

And, there is a "Faster" DOHC. And not just becuase of hotter cams. 91's had hotter Cams, but if you notice, 95's have the same horsepower as the 91's, even without the cams. This is because of some system that is on the '95 and up DOHC's. The systems name eluded me at this moment, I will remember later though.

And we have a LSD in one of our SE S14's, but doesn't have a sunroof.. Which also has ABS. Carina's didn't come factory with one. Its also is an SE.

Tyler

[Casey]

im pretty sure when someone ordered your car when you bought it new from nissan you can chose to customize it... like was mensioned the check box ect ect. but nissan still has to fill a lot with cars... so they pumped out the "higher end" SE version with the majority being LSD and ABS *you can see if you have abs by looking for the large metal thing with brake liens going into it on the pass side*
all cars with abs should have an lsd unless someone changed something... lol
i know that SE meant sunroof + 5 lug... but you could choose to get abs and lsd if you customized a car... so yeah theres prolly alot of SE cars with non abs and no lsd ... but i got money sayin theres more with lsd and abs than without

[down_shift]

yes its called an option sheet and not all SE have sunroofs.

[Hammerhead-i Eaglethrust]

you guys are starting to confuse me. A lot of SE's were born without lsd's, and I know a guy who used to have a base automatic with a sunroof abs and lsd.

Tyler I did not know that about the suspensions.

Fastest car with a KA I rode in was a 93. The thing was a freak torque monster. My S14 with a stock SR barely outran it (should I really admit that?). Sadly, it was totalled the same night I rode in it. Then I bought it.

[Zane98S14]

i think that the SE package was just a rear spoiler and white face guages with a "sport tuned" suspension. Everything else, ie sunroof, and the abs/lsd where other option packages so it is possible to have a non-SE with all that stuff. I don't know, my kouki still has all the original stuff (even the window sticker) so i'll see if i can find anything.

[Hammerhead-i Eaglethrust]

don't forget the 5 lugs.

[osiriskidd]

yea i know about the sr and rb motors, but i was told its hard for them to pass emissions.

OH and i4auto. wanna do a auto to manuel swap on this one too...just too much. i can grab the f22f23 tranny from pullapart whenever, its just super hard to find anyone reputable to do it for a decent price

[DeadDoc]

I have the J30A1 swapping with a J32A2 and 3.5L crank for a 3.5L displacement. I have half an engine at a shop.