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BigJack
08-02-2008, 12:35 AM
I am going to Autozone to pick up things I need for my manual swap. I know I need greese, brake cleaner, and tranny fluid, but can anyone tell me how much of each I need? Also what will I need electrical wise to hook up all the sensors into the harness and jumper the fuse to start my car?

SCato
08-02-2008, 12:44 AM
you shouldnt need more than 3 cans of brake cleaner

grease just get a nice size one

tranny fluid you need gear oil, get 75W-90, GL-4

electrical wise i got everything you need, if you want go to Walmart and go where the bulbs are for headlights, on that aisle there should be a wiring kit, thats what i have. you might want one for yourself. it has everything you need IRC

you got a good drill for the firewall?

FlatWoodsMonster
08-02-2008, 12:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTfNQVQJKEs&feature=related

BigJack
08-02-2008, 12:53 AM
you shouldnt need more than 3 cans of brake cleaner

grease just get a nice size one

tranny fluid you need gear oil, get 75W-90, GL-4

electrical wise i got everything you need, if you want go to Walmart and go where the bulbs are for headlights, on that aisle there should be a wiring kit, thats what i have. you might want one for yourself. it has everything you need IRC

you got a good drill for the firewall?
I've got my Dewalt 18v drill with the titanium bits. Should I get a hole saw attachment?

And I pulled out my Chilton book and it has all the torque specs and everything I need to greese and all. It covers everything except wiring obviously.

SCato
08-02-2008, 12:56 AM
that should be just fine

dumb question but you have a good rachet set right? with more than a few extensions. and idk if you have one but a swivel socket would help us greatly

along with a torque wrench

BigJack
08-02-2008, 12:57 AM
I don't have anything to cut the brake pedal in half with. Only saw I have is a jigsaw and it won't cut through metal. Also tomorrow I'll pick up a pilot or release bearing puller to make things easier. Maybe I can borrow a grinder from my neighbor Bert. I also asked Andy if I can borrow his jack since mine is a midget. I might be able to borrow one from another friend though, I'll see.

SCato
08-02-2008, 12:59 AM
ok get a few jacks, will help with that heavy ass auto tranny, and help when we spike the new one. ive got deppys 4 jack stands and one of his jacks, but get as many as you can still.

BigJack
08-02-2008, 12:59 AM
that should be just fine

dumb question but you have a good rachet set right? with more than a few extensions. and idk if you have one but a swivel socket would help us greatly

along with a torque wrench
To be honest I have more inch sockets than metric. Do you have a set? All I have is my huge ratchet, 3 extensions, and a good metric wrench set. No swivel sockets.

SCato
08-02-2008, 01:03 AM
get a kit..... i dont have one. well i borrow my bro's unless im at my dads shop

BigJack
08-02-2008, 01:26 AM
You know you're driving it to test it out right? Lol, my mom never lets me drive her car so I haven't driven stick in about 3-4 months.

SCato
08-02-2008, 01:42 AM
right....

BigJack
08-02-2008, 01:44 AM
My mom's car is the only stick I've driven and it's easy.

And where can I get a cheap but good set? Husky from Home Depot? They have an unlimited warranty. That's who makes my ratchet and wrench set.

SCato
08-02-2008, 01:49 AM
anything will be fine

BigJack
08-02-2008, 06:15 AM
Can you use a pilot bearing puller for the release/throw out bearing on the tranny? If not would a battery terminal puller fit around it?

Oh, and I know you know a lot about electrical stuff, Steve, but do you know how to do the wiring? I would like for my reverse lights to work. I read the thing on Nico for the S13 and I don't understand how you connect 2 different wires together and run stuff to the tranny and completing circuits and do a jumper. And I have jumper cables if needed.

SCato
08-02-2008, 06:21 AM
everything electrical i think i can work out..

as for the bearing that sounds right. im not sure. my dad has a throwout bearing remover tool. then again we can go up to autozone and rent one

BigJack
08-02-2008, 06:28 AM
everything electrical i think i can work out..

as for the bearing that sounds right. im not sure. my dad has a throwout bearing remover tool. then again we can go up to autozone and rent one
I'll save the renting for later on in the week, the day before or of. Tomorrow I'm getting this stuff:

Degreaser
Silver paint
75w-90 GL-4
3 cans of brake cleaner
Lithium-based grease and gun
Master cyl.
Slave cyl.
Ratchet set
Wire loom for the new wires


Maybe we can somehow tighten up both of our e-brake cables too. Then in 500 miles I'll be drift ready.
The only thing that sucks is I know I will forget to shift. Even in my car now if I manual shift it I sometimes forget. I guess it's finally time to give my left leg something to do.

Wes
08-02-2008, 06:53 AM
Everything I can think of off the top of my head you'll need is

Thing of grease, and btw, just get the like, $2 tub thing, you shouldnt need a grease gun, atleast I've never used one for clutch stuff.
Gear oil. If you can find it, get some Redline MT90, its the shit, best gear oil I've ever used in a Nissan. Atleast, I noticed a big difference in my old NX2K and my hatch when I switched over to it. IF you cant find it, just get some cheap gear oil, run it a while, then change it out.
Brake cleaner
Rent a pilot puller from Autozone or advance.
Some chain will come in handy as well, incase you dont have an impact to take the flywheel bolts off. Attach a short peice of chain to a Pressure plate bolt, and to a bell housing bolt so that you have the flywheel locked.
A prybar also can come in handy, as well as a good breakerbar/jack handle.

Also, make sure your jackstands will go pretty high. If you have to buy some new ones, get the ones for trucks/SUV's, you may have to jack your car up in 2 stages, but I like to have as much room as I can when I'm under the car.
Full metric socket set, if you need to get one, go to Walmart and get one of those like, 48pc Stanley sets, they're about $25, most handy socket set I've ever bought, as well as a thing of deep well sockets, and some extensions, make sure you have atleast foot of extensions, just makes things easier. And like Scato said, a swivel socket makes it easier.
As for a hole saw, on Caseys, we just drilled a hole, and kind of punched out the rest with a screwdriver because we couldnt get the holesaw to cut right.
A dremel also comes in handy.

If I think of anything else to make the job easier, Ill add to this.

Also, are you pulling your motor to do it, or just leaving it in?
Its really alot easier to pull the motor to do it. Atleast, its 10x easier for me to do a clutch in a 240 pulling the motor. Not to mention, then you have plenty of room, and can check if you have any other leaks or the like, or poly fill your motor mounts while you have everything apart.

Not to mention, while its out, if you have a pressure washer, you can clean out your bay/clean the motor up alot easier.

Just my .02

As for wiring, just have some random wire/solder/electrical tape handy, I cant remember the exact wiring, but I like to solder where I can.

Hmm.

SCato
08-02-2008, 07:03 AM
Also, are you pulling your motor to do it, or just leaving it in?
Its really alot easier to pull the motor to do it. Atleast, its 10x easier for me to do a clutch in a 240 pulling the motor. Not to mention, then you have plenty of room, and can check if you have any other leaks or the like, or poly fill your motor mounts while you have everything apart.

Just my .02

As for wiring, just have some random wire/solder/electrical tape handy, I cant remember the exact wiring, but I like to solder where I can.

Hmm.

i was planning to leave the engine in. that way i only mess with the tranny, in case something goes wrong its the tranny and not the whole engine. as for leaks the only thing i think he has to worry is gonna be tranny leak and rear main seal


O jackson get a rear main seal.

the only issue i can forsee is gonna be, spiking the tranny.

and yea we got measure the tranny vs the highest level of the jacks

If im missing anything LMK wes

as for the parts shopping ill go with you to advance, jackson, we can use my shop account. and we can go up to Eric as well

Wes
08-02-2008, 07:09 AM
i was planning to leave the engine in. that way i only mess with the tranny, in case something goes wrong its the tranny and not the whole engine. as for leaks the only thing i think he has to worry is gonna be tranny leak and rear main seal


O jackson get a rear main seal.

the only issue i can forsee is gonna be, spiking the tranny.

and yea we got measure the tranny vs the highest level of the jacks

If im missing anything LMK wes

as for the parts shopping ill go with you to advance, jackson, we can use my shop account. and we can go up to Eric as well

All shit aside, just for ease of install and shit, just pull the motor. Atleast, on some cars, the time it takes to pull the tranny/install the tranny with it in the car, I can just pull the whole set. I mean, I can have a KA out of a 240 in under an hour, and thats the amount of time I've spent on some cars just getting the transmission ready to come out/trying to, haha.

And don't fuck with the rear main unless it really is leaking, seriously. Too much chance of fucking up the thing that holds it then it leaks forever, haha.

Btw, whats there to go wrong, sir?

I dunno, I just like having things out in the open to have more room to work, but its up to you guys, really personal preference more than anything.

I do know that I'm not pulling the motor in my coupe to do the 5spd swap in it, just cause I got up under it, no real leaks, and that motor is in there super clean, haha, and I really just would rather leave it to do it, but, when I drop another tranny on my head trying to line it up, I'll probably curse myself out, haha.

SCato
08-02-2008, 07:38 AM
well he doesnt have a hoist so were kinda SOL.

idk what would go wrong, i just know something would, with my luck

yea i know about the dropping part, auto tranny is what 250-300 lbs? and it takes what 15 lbs to crush your skull....

Wes
08-02-2008, 07:47 AM
well he doesnt have a hoist so were kinda SOL.

idk what would go wrong, i just know something would, with my luck

yea i know about the dropping part, auto tranny is what 250-300 lbs? and it takes what 15 lbs to crush your skull....


Lol, I dunno, but when I pulled that tranny for him, I dropped the tail end on my head, my hand was under it, but I was disoriented for that whole day, lol.

JJ Alfano
08-02-2008, 07:52 AM
1/2" Hole drill bit
2.5 quarts of 85w-90 Gear Oil
Brake cleaner however much you need
Slave Cylinder
Master Cylinder
Manual clutch steel lines
Manual Driveshaft
Clutch alignment tool
Manual flywheel
Manual flywheel bolts
Manual Transmission bolts
Shifter
Clutch
Pressure Plate
Throwout Bearing
Clutch Pedal

After you get off Auto tranny, you have to remove the Auto Tranny Transmission Bushing, its like a Pilot Bearing, but way bigger (well, the hole is smaller, but the bushing itself is bigger) Use a dremel or a Sawz-All and very carefully cut that in 3-4 spots to release some pressure, then use a flathead or something to pry it out.

Carefully install the manual Pilot Bearing into the motor and then move onto the clutch/pressure plate

After clutch pressure plate, throw the tranny on (dont forget to mount it to the motor and chassis!)

Hook up the driveshaft

Fill 2.5 quarts of Gear Oil through the shifter opening on top (should be 6 bolts)

Bolt up shifter


After you hook everything up, look for a fusebox on the passenger side of your engine bay, this fuse box is located near the Coolant Resevoir. There are 2 wires UNDERNEATH this fuse box. The two wires are Black/Yellow and White/Black, this is the Park Safety Switch. Just take those two wires, cut them, and crimp them together, otherwise the car wont crank. (By connecting those wires you send power to the ecu saying the car is in park)

Good luck.

And thanks to Tyler for teaching me the above ^^

Should only take a few hours if you have someone to help. Once you do it the first time, its easy as hell, just time consuming.


EDIT: Oh yeah! /thread

slidingsky
08-02-2008, 08:08 AM
Lol, I dunno, but when I pulled that tranny for him, I dropped the tail end on my head, my hand was under it, but I was disoriented for that whole day, lol.


In a perfect world I would pull it as well.... it makes life so much easier.

I'm a pretty big guy and i haused the tranny down but I wouldn't suggest that at all.

Beware that it is heavy (obviously), but make sure you have it secure enough when dropping it down so you don't pull a Wes or worse.

BigJack
08-02-2008, 08:16 AM
I do have an impact wrench. Also I now have cement blocks which I can put under the jack stands for more height.

And Steve is right, something would go wrong. He was over my house and we changed his spark plugs and the part that goes around the plug got stuck onto it and ripped off of the long thing that goes through the valve cover and got stuck.

And I have a jack, Steve has Deppy's, and I'll have a bigger shop jack. Maybe I'll even rent a tranny jack. But probably not since I have no job, and this is for my senior project, and that's the only reason why it's getting done. In case you haven't figured it out it's being funded by my mommy.

Shit, almost forgot, what should I use for the actual lines from the master to the slave, brake bluid? Because I have lots of that.

JJ Alfano
08-02-2008, 08:19 AM
dot4 has a higher heat resistance, use that for your clutch fluid

BigJack
08-02-2008, 08:19 AM
dot4 has a higher heat resistance, use that for your clutch fluid
Good. I have a lot of that.

THESHOCKER
08-05-2008, 04:05 AM
they make metal cutting blades for jigsaws FYI

Timmy22
08-05-2008, 04:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTfNQVQJKEs&feature=related


Lolz

Zippy69
08-05-2008, 07:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTfNQVQJKEs&feature=related

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