offset?

[andrew]

im looking at the rota p45r's (cant afford B5's...)
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/p45r_hb.jpg
looking for a set up like this
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1051/1307329607_71bf2899e4_o.jpg
^^^he' running, 18x9.5 +15
^^^ i cant tell if his fenders are rolled, tucked,etc... anyone?

basically what im looking for is having to NOT roll(etc) my fenders.
out of these offsets, what will allow me to not have to roll. i just want to lower the car down to above thetire and i dont want any of the rim to stick out. im thinking +25 or +30 for the rear and +35 for the front? that seem about right and flush?
thanks, lmk( which is best)

(F) 18x9.5 + ? (12, 20, 25, 30, 35, or 48?)

(R)18x9.5 + ? (12, 20, 25, or 30?)

[wantboost]

i'm going to be running 17x9.5 +15 on a 4 lug wheel :D, they should be here soon.

also you will have a hard time running a 9.5 +30 in the rear and not roll the fender (unless you are going to stretch and run a bit of camber)

[Cameron.]

+12 all the way around on a 9.5 is flush, just need to roll the fender, no pulling neccesary, but that depends on what tire size you have. you dont want anything above +20 if you want flush, and just to let you know those sizes in the P45R have to be custom ordered through a group buy.

oh and he also has a slight pull on the rear.

[andrew]

+12 all the way around on a 9.5 is flush, just need to roll the fender, no pulling neccesary, but that depends on what tire size you have. you dont want anything above +20 if you want flush, and just to let you know those sizes in the P45R have to be custom ordered through a group buy.

oh and he also has a slight pull on the rear.
i have some, 225's, 235's, and 285's that i can use. so, basically without a group buy, what sizes is this rim offered in? just +30?
trying to learn this whole offset thing... gets frustrating sometimes...

[Keith]

zenkicam you should get those Rotas if you want no lip!

[Cameron.]

umm no.. rotas fail..


i have some, 225's, 235's, and 285's that i can use. so, basically without a group buy, what sizes is this rim offered in? just +30?
trying to learn this whole offset thing... gets frustrating sometimes...

im not too sure, but on a 9.5 +30 would most likely hit your shock.

just run 225's no need for 285..

[Keith]

lol im just trying to help. but yea

[babowc]

you know..
those rotas are like 900 for the set.
LOL

400 more and you can get a set of Work CRKai...
why would you do that?

!!!

[wantboost]

umm no.. rotas fail..



im not too sure, but on a 9.5 +30 would most likely hit your shock.

just run 225's no need for 285..

not in 9.5 +15 for cheap they dont lolol (round 2 for tonight lol)

[andrew]

umm no.. rotas fail..



im not too sure, but on a 9.5 +30 would most likely hit your shock.

just run 225's no need for 285..

what about on coilovers?

i want to run the 285/35/18. their pilot sports and their bitchn.(for the rear)
oh and i have 255's pilots

[Cameron.]

not in 9.5 +15 for cheap they dont lolol (round 2 for tonight lol)

those are the only rotas that are respectable but im allegic to knockoff shit.. and werd to Mikes comment...


what about on coilovers?

i want to run the 285/35/18. their pilot sports and their bitchn.(for the rear)


no.

[wantboost]

what about on coilovers?

i want to run the 285/35/18. their pilot sports and their bitchn.(for the rear)

and you dont want to roll the fender?:thinking:

[Cameron.]

yea.. thats what i was thinkin... he just wants beef out back, but on a +12 285 would be like a mexican truck.

[shawn shawn]

Man up and roll the fenders....


I did mine w a jack handle. ;)

[andrew]

and you dont want to roll the fender?:thinking:
i really dont want to because what about once i use up the 285s, then ill have some 255's, 235s, 225's to use and will the roll be the same with those tires?(newb ?) get what i mean>?

[Cameron.]

rolling the fenders is nothing, he means pulling the fenders. a common misconception.

[wantboost]

yea.. thats what i was thinkin... he just wants beef out back, but on a +12 285 would be like a mexican truck.

he would need atleast a +50mm fenderflare on the rear (depending on camber) most likely +70

[Cameron.]

i really dont want to because what about once i use up the 285s, then ill have some 255's, 235s, 225's to use and will the roll be the same with those tires?(newb ?) get what i mean>?

lol it wont be as much as with your tires than as your wheels.

[andrew]

be like a mexican truck.
dont want that. but yes i do want a big wide beefy tire in the rear.

[Cameron.]

he would need atleast a +50mm fenderflare on the rear (depending on camber) most likely +70

are you joking?


dont want that. but yes i do want a big wide beefy tire in the rear.

255 is wide enough.

[wantboost]

GO READ ZILVIA FITMENT THREAD NOW!!!!!

figure out what you want

thanks

why am i typing like this?


are you joking?


if he is running a 285/40 with 1-1.5 degree of camber, the +70mm was a joke just to make it clear.

[andrew]

GO READ ZILVIA FITMENT THREAD NOW!!!!!

figure out what you want

thanks

why am i typing like this?
i did, offset confuses me...:(

[babowc]

go see max rubber fitment thread...
285 on 9.5? jesus..

[wantboost]

go see max rubber fitment thread...
285 on 9.5? jesus..

:bowdown::yes:

i am planning on running a 255/40 on my 9.5's

[Cameron.]

lol. tru dat.

[andrew]

go see max rubber fitment thread...
285 on 9.5? jesus..
285's come stock on a 18x9 from a mercedes sl500.

[Cameron.]

GO READ ZILVIA FITMENT THREAD NOW!!!!!

figure out what you want

thanks

why am i typing like this?



if he is running a 285/40 with 1-1.5 degree of camber, the +70mm was a joke just to make it clear.

ok sweetie.


285's come stock on a 18x9 from a mercedes sl500.

lol but this aint no mercedes were talkin 90whp 240sx. haha

[tangch]

I don't think you can fit those 9.5's at the back without rolling and pulling and a lot of negative camber with stock fenders unless you want the wheels to stick out like mexi trucks like someone said. Only option for you to run 18*9.5 with 285 is to get wide fenders or flares, no rolling and pulling, but cutting.

[Cameron.]

:bowdown::yes:

i am planning on running a 255/40 on my 9.5's

lol i run a 215 on my 9.5's but the stretch makes the tire look like a 255.


I don't think you can fit those 9.5's at the back without rolling and pulling and a lot of negative camber with stock fenders unless you want the wheels to stick out like mexi trucks like someone said. Only option for you to run 18*9.5 with 285 is to get wide fenders or flares, no rolling and pulling, but cutting.

thats not true... let me get a pic.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/blowass/car%20stuff/IMG_1320a.jpg

18x9.5 +12 stock fenders, no pull just roll..

[wantboost]

ok sweetie.





coming from a guy with a pink sexypants sig i am slightly scared ROFL

[Cameron.]

ok go play with your PINK yashio factory shift knob

[andrew]

ok so with fender roll, tuck, whatever i have to do. would the 285's work? or just better off using the 255's max for the rear?

[wantboost]

lol i run a 215 on my 9.5's but the stretch makes the tire look like a 255.


i would go for 225 but these are for trackdays yepyep ( i want to fit 275's with 1.5-2 degrees of camber)

[Cameron.]

what do you mean by tuck?

Hey bitches see my previous post for a pic of WHEEL FITMENT

[wantboost]

ok so with fender roll, tuck, whatever i have to do. would the 285's work? or just better off using the 255's max for the rear?

not without fenderflares

you are better off going with the 255's

[andrew]

what do you mean by tuck?
like what i have on the integra. pull and tuck.

[Cameron.]

ive never heard of "tuck" used when dealing with wheel fitment on S chassis'.

now andrew, if you were doing like a +30 or so offset they would fit under there, but then you would have problems clearing your suspension.. so its a lose lose.

[andrew]

ive never heard of "tuck" used when dealing with wheel fitment on S chassis'.
oh... well, does 255's on a 9.5 with roll sound better? but how would that "roll" look if i was ever to put 215's,225's,or 235's? not good eh?:crying:


ive never heard of "tuck" used when dealing with wheel fitment on S chassis'.
see why i was saying that we need to get together?lol-i need your help.

basically what i need is for people to give me choices thatll fit for what im looking for, and i can pick-lol

[Cameron.]

You will never notice a roll... rolling the fender just rolls the inner lip up inside the fender, Pulling actually reforms the fender. on a 18x9.5 +12 with the proper amount of camber you shouldnt need a pull..

[tangch]

lol i run a 215 on my 9.5's but the stretch makes the tire look like a 255.

thats not true... let me get a pic.....

18x9.5 +12 stock fenders, no pull just roll..

What is the tire size, camber??

[andrew]

You will never notice a roll... rolling the fender just rolls the inner lip up inside the fender, Pulling actually reforms the fender. on a 18x9.5 +12 with the proper amount of camber you shouldnt need a pull..
i dont want to have camber. i want the tires to wear evenly...

[Cameron.]

lolololol.. camber will not alter the wear of the tires... and not ~4* at that...

you wouldnt have to worry about uneven wearing unless you had camber like a VIP car. or like Grants.. (YokotaS13)

the Toe (the inner and outter pitch of the tire) is what eats your tires.


What is the tire size, camber??

not too sure, but they look to be about a 225/40/18

camber in the back is prolly plus or minus 4 degrees, camber in the front prolly about the same.

[tangch]

This is from a guy call 1Via on zilvia's wheel whore fitment.
The rears
18x9.5 +12
Bridgestone SO-3 Pole Position 235/40-18
-1.5 camber
Stock fenders, slight roll in rear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/425_1-Via/DSC02274.jpg

[andrew]

^^^i like that

[Cameron.]

thats not a roll..... thats a pull.... and an unneeded pull at that..


DONT PULL UNLESS YOU HAVE TO PEOPLE!!!!

Making fitment without resulting to pulling in the end is always better than permenantly altering your fenders.. trust me i know from experience.. narrow tires and camber is your friend when your trying to make your wheels fit..

[andrew]

thats not a roll..... thats a pull.... and an unneeded pull at that..


DONT PULL UNLESS YOU HAVE TO PEOPLE!!!!

Making fitment without resulting to pulling in the end is always better than permenantly altering your fenders.. trust me i know from experience.. narrow tires and camber is your friend when your trying to make your wheels fit..
thats what im trying to say that i dont want to do!:wave:

[Cameron.]

and im telling you you wont have to if you put the proper size tire on the wheel, and add camber. cause while 285 may look good and all, theres a thing called sidewall flex, and its no bueno.. slightly stretched tires are better cause they keep that sidewall hard, especially for drift cars, which is what you want this car to be correct?

[andrew]

and im telling you you wont have to if you put the proper size tire on the wheel, and add camber. cause while 285 may look good and all, theres a thing called sidewall flex, and its no bueno.. slightly stretched tires are better cause they keep that sidewall hard, especially for drift cars, which is what you want this car to be correct?
si, but for a while it'll be a back and forth to school car...then all out, si. wouldnt 235s on a 9.5 be good?

[Cameron.]

now your thinking right... ok.. im going to bed.. work early tomorrow, and we got to replace a transmission in a 260 race car.

[tangch]

he wants big tires...so cut and weld, widefenders on, done. Big tires, factory camber, no rubbing.

[wantboost]

he wants big tires...so cut and weld, widefenders on, done. Big tires, factory camber, no rubbing.
thats what i want to do :ddirtyd::ddirtyd::ddirtyd::ddirtyd:

[Cameron.]

i would not go with wide fenders, i would just go with over fenders. but its not even needed, and when you got rid of the 285's you would wish you didnt go to all that trouble just to run them... i understand you want wide tires, but in your case i think, its only for looks, and will just make your car look like a dragster.. 235 will look wide enough..

[wantboost]

i would not go with wide fenders, i would just go with over fenders. but its not even needed, and when you got rid of the 285's you would wish you didnt go to all that trouble just to run them... i understand you want wide tires, but in your case i think, its only for looks, and will just make your car look like a dragster.. 235 will look wide enough..

auto-x, and track days yepyep,

the s13 that won nationals is my inspiration

[Cameron.]

speaking of 240s winning things, and while were on the topic of racing, today at balanced the Spec Clutch S14 that was in the Super Street Super Lap Battle came in and dynoed today. that car is bad ass. then the dude took it out down the street and back, i would have loved to see people look at me like "why is that dude driving a race car?

http://images.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0704_05_z+1995_nissan_240sx_s14+seibon_carbon_ fiber_hood_greddy_type_r_intercooler.jpg

http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/130_0704_spec_clutch_1995_nissan_240sx/photo_19.html

[down_shift]

didnt read past the first post. why do you want weak wheel fitment?

[andrew]

didnt read past the first post. why do you want weak wheel fitment?
what do you mean?