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flip
04-16-2007, 05:02 AM
This is a great writeup with pictures on how to remove the clutch damper box (also known as speed bleeder). This mod helps to increase stiffness of the clutch and to make it 100x easier to bleed your clutch system. Air tends to gather in this box and not want to come out...

To give credits where I got this write-up from:
http://www.zeroyon.com/index/content/view/32/47/


Clutch Line Modification

The purpose of this mod is to take the play out of the hydraulic clutch on the S13. When you install a heavy aftermarket clutch, sometimes the hydraulic system struggles to handle the added pressure when you depress the clutch pedal. This is evident when the clutch has been fully bled but still doesn't want to disengage all the way. For some this mod is done purely because they like the stiff, live feeling of the pedal afterwards. You have a closer connection with what your clutch is doing.

I must warn you, before doing this, that you could seriously screw your clutch system up if you do this wrong. If you don't have access to replacement hard lines, you may want to reconsider bending yours until you do. As always when playing with brake fluid, be sure not to drink it or get it in your eyes... and keep it off your paint! (it eats paint really quickly) Brake fluid washes out with water.

http://darkrume.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics10002/dscf0492.jpg

Here you can see the bottom half of the hydraulic clutch system as Nissan intended it. The hard line from the clutch master cylinder comes down to the lower block. This block has a loop back line that acts like a surge tank, taking pressure off the system. This is what causes the weakness. The short hard line then routes to the soft slave cylinder line. What we will be doing is eliminating the loop back and both blocks.

http://darkrume.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics10002/dscf0493.jpg

A closer look at the system

http://darkrume.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics10002/dscf0494.jpg

Here we are disconnecting all of the hard lines.

http://darkrume.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics10002/dscf0495.jpg

After removal of the short line, take the long line and carefully bend it by hand. Be sure not kink it. You will be turning it around and point it into the slave cylinder connection directly.

http://darkrume.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics10002/dscf0496.jpg

Here you can see the finished product.

http://darkrume.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics10002/dscf0497.jpg

Now go ahead and remove the loop back and blocks. Fill the master cylinder with brake fluid and bleed the clutch line. You will find bleeding this system takes only a few minutes, instead of all day like the stock system.

down_shift
04-16-2007, 06:15 AM
great time to add a SS clutch line too.

santacruz77
04-17-2007, 02:34 PM
yes it is^ i did that like the 1st week i had mine takes like 5 min.

suprabrit
04-17-2007, 08:08 PM
Flip this is a great DUI... :wink

shawn shawn
04-17-2007, 08:40 PM
I really need to do this! My dad did it to his and it makes a world of difference. We both have stag 4 comp clutches and mine feels really mushy and his feels like a damn switch.

Casey
04-17-2007, 08:46 PM
hmm
is the system similar on an s13?

sofo259
04-17-2007, 10:29 PM
i did this today and it def. makes a difference !!!

flip
04-18-2007, 01:50 AM
hmm
is the system similar on an s13?

The diagram shows an S13...

Casey
04-18-2007, 02:01 AM
The diagram shows an S13...

... er
s14....
i have an s14 lol
is it the same?

sofo259
04-18-2007, 02:08 AM
it should be the same.. go look, it takes like 10 seconds to look under there and see if you have that queer dampner thingy

Casey
04-18-2007, 02:13 AM
it should be the same.. go look, it takes like 10 seconds to look under there and see if you have that queer dampner thingy

mines an auto...
i was just wondering for my 5 speed conversion ... soon ... to come? lol

down_shift
04-18-2007, 05:21 AM
same.

ahmonrah
04-24-2007, 10:56 PM
yeah i did that to mine.

Neejay
10-30-2007, 09:00 AM
Question: Am I in bad shape if I dont have that connecting bracket that holds the clutch line? When I did it, I apparently didn't bend the hardline the corrent way, so I left off that bracket (accidnetly through it away). Now I have the oem hardline hanging -> ss clutch line.

I was thinking about just getting one of those agency power auto-to-manual ss line. It's a line that goes from your clutch MC straight to the slave cylinder...

hellfire
10-30-2007, 09:30 AM
No. It doesn't matter one bit.

Tyler

OtiS13
11-22-2007, 08:31 PM
i need to do thins, o keep loosing pressure and have to bleed. need to fix it it is annoying as hell

Shawn
11-22-2007, 09:09 PM
does it make the clutch pedal really hard? I don't want that.

Neejay
11-22-2007, 09:11 PM
does it make the clutch pedal really hard? I don't want that.It makes it stiffer, but not too stiff.

flip
11-22-2007, 09:33 PM
does it make the clutch pedal really hard? I don't want that.

No. Its stock pressure but no mush... Its the same as if the entire system were bled perfectly but it makes it possible to bleed it easily and completely.

hellfire
11-22-2007, 10:08 PM
Yep, get rid of that damn box. I do it for every clutch install.

Tyler