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NISMODUDE1988
04-10-2007, 06:00 AM
Ok here it is. Im thinking we need make a faq comparing all the engines. Now we know the rb26 is top, and the rb20 is bottom. Lets just shoot some info out on all the engines to help other people decide on engines. Also lets leave price out of comparing engine to engine cause that always turns into the deciding factor anyways. Everyone shoot there feelings or good info on a specific engine. I can edit it in to make it easier. try not to get in arguments. if you disagree just say so. no need to make a fuss about it. Mod is gonna be strict on this one to make it clean.

General


Pros

-its an RB! from a skyline!
-closest thing to a real skyline
-I-6 potential
-the awesome sound.


Cons

-Yes, it is more weight, around 150lbs more for a rb25 swap. the weight isnt important tho, its the weight shift. it really depends on engine/transmission and how you mount it (i.e. crossmember or aftermarket mounts), but realistically your looking at 2-3% overall weight shift. if you look at the numbers in a 3000lb car thats only a 60-90lb shift forward. just to put that in perspective, 12 gallons of gas weighs roughly 100lbs so there is more of a shift between a full and empty tank, than a RB swap. IT DOES NOT DESTROY THE WEIGHT BALANCE OF THE CAR


-Parts are still rare and expensive, but things are starting to come over
-mounts or crossmember swap required


RB20


Pros

-cheap
-skyline engine (?)
-WD-racing was saw near 400hp with his
-easy swap
-free revving up to 8k is possible on stock valve train
-excelent gas mileage off boost (it is a 2l after all)
-can make good power with minimal mods.
-sensors interchange with lots of usdm cars


Cons

-SR is easier with same potential (for your lower goal people). out of the box both will make near the same power, and upgrade easily to near the same numbers.
-cheap turbo (ceramic wheel)
-"weaker" tranny, nearly the same as KA/SR trans
-akward intake manifold
- its getting old 89-93 production years
-high mileage engines need proper mantinence ie timing belts and water pumps
- tiny injectors (270cc)
-intake manifold flange is diffrent from rb25 (greddy manfold does not bolt on)
-some rb20's can have the same problem as the early rb26 engines with the crank collar issue

RB25


Pros

-good potential (500+ on stock internals)
-VVT
-strong tranny (also include this when you price rb25s)

Cons

-expensive clips (when you get that strong tranny)
-becoming rare and expensive parts
-weak pistons ring lands
-not full glory as rb26
-another lame turbo, but better than the RB20's
-factory hp overrated (easily achieved with basic swap upgrades though)
-side feed injectors (hard to find)
-akward intake manifold
-custom driveshaft required (unless you use RB20 tranny?)

RB26

Pros

-the GODZILLA of RBs
-most potential of all
-twin turbo stock
-upwards of 300+ out the door
-bullet proof

Cons

-$$$$$
-$$$$$
-r32 crank coller issue (kills motor)
-need for rb25 tranny
-hard to find r33 motors
-impossible to find r34 motors
-did we mention $$$$$?

Casey
04-10-2007, 12:56 PM
12 gallons of gas weighs roughly 100lbs so there is more of a shift between a full and empty tank, than a RB swap. IT DOES NOT DESTROY THE WEIGHT BALANCE OF THE CAR

word

Casey
04-10-2007, 12:56 PM
oops forgot to mension great writeup
=D

Dominic49
04-10-2007, 03:24 PM
you forgot the RB30DET...... :ninja:



RB30DET


Nissan did not produce this engine, but it refers to a turbocharged engine featuring an RB30E block with a twin-cam head conversion. Common hybrid in Australasia using a RB30E bottom end mated to a RB25DE cylinder head and turbo. The RB25DE cylinder head from the R32 Skyline, A31 Cefiro or C33 Laurel can be used. The RB25DET (from the R33 Skyline or C34 Laurel or Stagea) head is also used, however an external oil feed must be fabricated for the variable cam timing on the RB25DET which further complicates things.
Although it has a larger displacement than the RB26DETT, maximum possible horsepower is less, as the RB30 block lacks the RB26 block's internal cast-in bracing, and consequently cannot rev as high due to harmonic issues at ~7500 rpm. To compensate, the RB30DET produces more torque at lower revs. There is also an 'RB30DETT' kit manufactured by OS Giken of Japan, which bolts an extension on top of the RB26 engine block, and fits liners, to give an 86 mm bore x 86 mm stroke. It is available as an assembled short block, containing billet chrome-molybdenum crank, billet chrome-molybdenum H-beam connecting rods, forged pistons, and costs ¥1,500,000.

down_shift
04-10-2007, 05:31 PM
oops forgot to mention copy/paste
=D

msglgth

Casey
04-12-2007, 08:19 AM
msglgth

wtf?
i didnt write that
ure lame

edit

i said great write up not copy paste
whats wrong with you? theres a thing called not being a jerk
you should try it.

Casey
04-12-2007, 08:21 AM
you forgot the RB30DET...... :ninja:



RB30DET


Nissan did not produce this engine, but it refers to a turbocharged engine featuring an RB30E block with a twin-cam head conversion. Common hybrid in Australasia using a RB30E bottom end mated to a RB25DE cylinder head and turbo. The RB25DE cylinder head from the R32 Skyline, A31 Cefiro or C33 Laurel can be used. The RB25DET (from the R33 Skyline or C34 Laurel or Stagea) head is also used, however an external oil feed must be fabricated for the variable cam timing on the RB25DET which further complicates things.
Although it has a larger displacement than the RB26DETT, maximum possible horsepower is less, as the RB30 block lacks the RB26 block's internal cast-in bracing, and consequently cannot rev as high due to harmonic issues at ~7500 rpm. To compensate, the RB30DET produces more torque at lower revs. There is also an 'RB30DETT' kit manufactured by OS Giken of Japan, which bolts an extension on top of the RB26 engine block, and fits liners, to give an 86 mm bore x 86 mm stroke. It is available as an assembled short block, containing billet chrome-molybdenum crank, billet chrome-molybdenum H-beam connecting rods, forged pistons, and costs ¥1,500,000.

yah i so want that motor
i was reading about it on another forum or something.
the rb26 extention sounds sweet... wonder what the life of that is...

v-empire
04-12-2007, 05:27 PM
msglgth


viperbite:
wtf?
i didnt write that
ure lame

edit

i said great write up not copy paste
whats wrong with you? theres a thing called not being a jerk
you should try it.


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omg...lmao.....you guys are so so funny....:lmfao: