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youngster603
03-03-2008, 01:18 AM
so, i've always been kind of surprised that i never see anyone mention manual steering racks in the 240 world. i always figured theres some reason that people smarter than me know, so i just let it go. now i see this thread (http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=171644) on zilvia and i see a lot of different opinions about the whole thing so i figured i'd run it by my 240atlanta peeps and see what you guys think.
AFSil80
03-03-2008, 01:24 AM
Interesting.

I had read that a 280ZX rack would swap over with some modification, but seeing one made for the S-chassis is pretty cool.
zcrew
03-03-2008, 01:25 AM
Explain to me the difference of powerless power steering and manual racks.
hellfire
03-03-2008, 01:30 AM
Make your own. I didn't read that thread, but just fill one with ATF, and cap off the ends. There ya go.

Tyler
AFSil80
03-03-2008, 01:35 AM
Make your own. I didn't read that thread, but just fill one with ATF, and cap off the ends. There ya go.

Tyler

^ That's how my 90 is right now.
hellfire
03-03-2008, 01:36 AM
Thats the ticket if you don't want PS.

Tyler
Nisxsz
03-03-2008, 01:38 AM
I heard that if your PS lines leak, flush it with ATF will fix it. Actually my friend has done it and it worked well.
hellfire
03-03-2008, 01:40 AM
ATF is the same as PS fluid. PS fluid is just clear, and repackaged in smaller, and more expensive bottles.

Tyler
Wes
03-03-2008, 01:43 AM
That would explain why some PS fluid I've used as red, and some was clear.
Nisxsz
03-03-2008, 01:43 AM
ATF is the same as PS fluid. PS fluid is just clear, and repackaged in smaller, and more expensive bottles.

Tyler

o'rly
hellfire
03-03-2008, 01:43 AM
:goodjob:

Tyler
Nisxsz
03-03-2008, 01:44 AM
That would explain why some PS fluid I've used as red, and some was clear.

that guy in your avatar has some big'o middle finger.
zcrew
03-03-2008, 01:45 AM
yeah, the lock to lock turning doesn't seem like it'd change much, if any. the 240 power racks seem fairly far lock to lock, therefore getting a manual rack (which the point is usually to give a different ratio to make it easier to turn without PS) would have to take quite a wind to turn, or cut out a good bit of turning radius.
projectpanda13
03-17-2008, 12:24 AM
I'm confused. The custom manual rack here has a steering ratio equal to that of a HICAS rack @ 14.9:1, 2.6 turn lock-to-lock. From what I've been reading, shouldn't a manual rack have a higher steering ratio to help with the steering effort. So the manual rack wold be harder to turn then the regular steering rack with the 17:1 steering ratio. Wouldn't it just be better to remove the power steering with the pump, lines, reservor, ect...Iono, I don't really get it so please someone explain. Thanks. Latez.
babowc
03-17-2008, 12:38 AM
On Zilvia, someone was having manual racks made for the S13.

It was a GB deal.. go check it out on Zilvia.
Custom made rack.. it was pretty cheap too.
Aluminum rack bushings too.. winnar.
turboedsileighty
03-17-2008, 12:49 AM
i just tool my rack apart, removed the spool, packed it full of wheel bearing grease, & voila, maual steerin, then i replaced the inner & outer tie rods with OE replacements. its not hard to tun either, my ex gf could drive it & she is only 125 lbs, even sitting still its not too hard
projectpanda13
03-17-2008, 01:06 AM
I was checking the page on Zilvia out and that's when I got confused. THe custom rack the guy is selling has a steering ratio the same as the Hicas, 14.9:1 2.6 turn lock to lock. How is this better? I mean why not just removed all the power steering equipment. Wouldn't it be the same thing as a manual rack? I don't know if it worth it to buy the manual steering rack or just have a remanufacured hicas rack. Latez.